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FDP Forum / Fender Guitars: Stratocasters / MIM vs American made strats

AlohaEd

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Eddie
Sep 19th, 2018 12:20 PM   Edit   Profile  

I was in a shop and loved the neck of the 50s Classic Player and Series strats. I currently have an 05 MIM Strat and am not thrilled with it's C shape neck. I was told the 50s/60s Player/Series stats are made in Mexico. Are there major differences between US and MIM stats? I can use the mod shop(USA) to build a 50s type strat, yet it could cost at least $1500, compared to the $800 Series. Other then cosmetics, should they play and sound similar? Pardon me if this was answered in previous posts. Thanks

Stratrocker
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USA

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Sep 22nd, 2018 08:48 AM   Edit   Profile  

I just took delivery of a Classic 60s Strat Lacquer finish. It's got different specs but I think it's every bit as good as my American Standard Strat.

60CycleHum

USA

Sep 22nd, 2018 05:02 PM   Edit   Profile  

I've tried some MIM Strats and they're great and some have a great feel/vibe. I do however notice the build and material quality difference. The other difference is the US models hold their value better for resale.

Stratrocker
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Sep 23rd, 2018 07:55 AM   Edit   Profile  

"The other difference is the US models hold their value better for resale." - 60CycleHum

Very true. Especially over time. This is important especially for people like me that occasionally decide "It's time to thin the herd". I have a really nice partscaster listed on CL right now (MIM Sage Green Metallic body/Mighty-Mite neck). When that sells, I'm going to list a really nice Tex-Mex Strat. :)



60CycleHum

USA

Sep 23rd, 2018 10:46 AM   Edit   Profile  

Yeah, being able to easily sell stuff is good. I do have a California Series Strat. Remember those? Joint effort between MX and CA. Again, the quality difference was noticeable, but I took the neck off and added a Warmoth scalloped neck and Van Zandt pickups. I could always revert it and sell, but that is a favorite, not selling :)

(This message was last edited by 60CycleHum at 12:47 PM, Sep 23rd, 2018)

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Sep 23rd, 2018 11:30 AM   Edit   Profile  

The big differences across both lines is pickup magnets (MIM ceramic vs. MIA alnico) and the way the frets are finished. MIA fretwork has a lot more attention to detail.

Despite that, I've played MIM Strats that were better than some MIA Strats I've played.

There are no absolutes when it comes too playability and tone, because we're all different.

If anyone looks down on a player for rocking on a MIM guitar, the critic is the one with the problem--not the player.

Stratrocker
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Sep 23rd, 2018 12:58 PM   Edit   Profile  

I believe the new MIM "Player Series" has alnico magnet pickups...at least in the Strats.

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Sep 23rd, 2018 01:09 PM   Edit   Profile  

Yeah, there are exceptions; some MIA Strats have ceramics too. I was speaking in general terms. It depends on the sound you're after.

There's nothing wrong with ceramic magnets; they're just a lot cheaper than alnico. Barden uses them in his pickups and many players known for their great tone have them in their guitars.

Stratrocker
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Sep 23rd, 2018 06:20 PM   Edit   Profile  

Yeah, I knew that you probably knew that. Was hesitant to post it. Would never think of trying to "correct" you. :)

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Sep 24th, 2018 06:40 AM   Edit   Profile  

Oh come on...no offense taken. I can still learn a thing or two!

60CycleHum

USA

Sep 24th, 2018 04:32 PM   Edit   Profile  

I would never look down upon whatever anyone is playing. But, I do question some friends love of guitar if they will spend more on cell phone (limited life span) than a guitar.

Mick Reid
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Sep 24th, 2018 07:04 PM   Edit   Profile  

FWIW, I have never owned a MIA Fender.

Mostly because they're too expensive here and I'm a tight-arse (that means: cheapskate, skinflint, miser etc). Plus, I *love* the tinkering.

My entire stable consists of various MIM, MII, MIK, MIC and BYO. (Fender, Squier, Epi)

They all play well and sound great to my ears.
I'm no sh**-hot guitar player, but I do ok and think I have pretty good idea of tone.
I'm sure all my cheap imports and home-brews would sound even better in more capable hands.

However, as for resale, if I were to sell any of the home-brews or modified imports, it would probably be more profitable to part them out. (which I have done before)

One day I do hope to acquire a MIA Fender though.


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Sep 24th, 2018 07:10 PM   Edit   Profile  

My one MIA Strat is not a Fender but a Warmoth.

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Sep 24th, 2018 09:03 PM   Edit   Profile  

I love my MIM.

Got it for $200 cause it didn't play right.

Took the neck off, fixed the shim (it was in backwards) adjusted it, did a quick fret dress, spent a little time getting it setup (I'm no tech but can pick up tools and do work), put in some vintage 65 pups, new pickguard/pots/knobs and hand-wired all the electronics and it plays great!

Nothing against MIAs. I lusted over a few CS guitars and was leaning towards a new American Standard, but the paradox of the "nice guitar" won me over in the end to the cheap rescued mexi strat.

ejm

usa

Sep 25th, 2018 10:17 AM   Edit   Profile  

Feel and string spacing: There is a slight difference between MIA (several versions) versus MIM and maybe versus MIJ/MIC/MIK/MII imports.

They are not always swap-able.

Callaham has a pretty good chart and tutorial on their site. GFS also has some info.

Whether or not that will hamper you is a personal thing.

(This message was last edited by ejm at 04:54 PM, Sep 25th, 2018)

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Sep 25th, 2018 07:14 PM   Edit   Profile  

Great tone happens.

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