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FDP Forum / The Chop Shop / So, come tell me of the Jazz minor scale

windmill
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Aug 29th, 2018 06:31 AM   Edit   Profile  

Hello

In my relentless search for knowledge I have come across the jazz minor scale.

I think it has something to do with the melodic minor scale.

Can anyone enlighten me about what it is and where it is used

Some examples would be welcome.

Thank you

Te 52

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Aug 29th, 2018 11:03 AM   Edit   Profile  

It's a minor scale with raised 6th and 7th degrees. Or, if you prefer, a major scale with a flat 3rd degree.

It's the same as the melodic minor scale except, the melodic minor scale is normally played with the altered 6th & 7th scale degrees when ascending, but unaltered when descending. But the jazz minor scale is played with the altered scale degrees both ascending and descending.

The i7 chord will be a min/maj7, so clearly the scale works well with that chord. But its modes are very important too.

Everything else I could say about it can be found...

...here.

(This message was last edited by Te 52 at 06:53 PM, Aug 29th, 2018)

Te 52

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Aug 29th, 2018 11:07 AM   Edit   Profile  

Oh, and plenty of examples on...

...YouTube

gdw3

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Aug 29th, 2018 04:45 PM   Edit   Profile  

Couldn't have said it any better myself.

windmill
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Sep 1st, 2018 06:11 PM   Edit   Profile  

Are there any particular tunes where the use of the jazz minor scale is so obvious that anyone could notice it ?

Asking for a friend....

:)

Achase4u
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Sep 1st, 2018 07:49 PM   Edit   Profile  

Well,

That's a little harder to pin down as there are many times when melodic minor and harmonic minor can be used. I would check out the tune Nica's dream where the head is based around a Min-Maj7th chord. Because of this, harmonic and melodic minor both can work there. They both contain the minor third and major 7th interval that are outlined in the chord.

The only difference on the surface between harmonic minor and melodic minor, in the end, is the 6th interval. There is no G played in the melody(very crafty of Horace) so it can be either. Especially when solo time comes.

Now, melodic minor *modes* are used all the time in jazz tunes that aren't necessarily based around a min-maj7 chord. Melodic minor modes really help you hit certain chords with alterations. Super Locrian for example.

Wes Montgomery - Nicas Dream

(This message was last edited by Achase4u at 09:54 PM, Sep 1st, 2018)

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