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FDP Forum / Fender Amps: Vintage (before 1985) / Calling Peegoo

Tony F

Long Island, NY

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Jul 25th, 2018 02:23 PM   Edit   Profile  

Silverface champ question for ya. Take off your helmet and put on your thinking cap. I picked up a late run silverface champ 1981 or so and noticed the baffle is recessed a good inch back from the front of the cabinet and speaker grill. I don't recall ever seeing this before l but I don't recall a lot of things and the seller says the baffle is stock. I'm guessing this is just CBS era manufacturing?????

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Jul 25th, 2018 02:29 PM   Edit   Profile  

I'm not Peegoo but I have what may be the same era Champ and Vibro Champ.
These amps have a permanent or set baffle that sets in a "dado" in the sides and bottom of the cabinet. It's not better or worse than the old type that could be removed.

Peegoo
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Jul 25th, 2018 07:34 PM   Edit   Profile  

Yeah, I think it was just a cheaper way of making the cabinet. I have a SF Champ Vibro Champ that's like this.

Like BbendFender says, this design necessitated a dado in the cabinet panels (an additional production process) which makes a very solid joint to accept the baffle board.

However, it saved on materials because no cleats (little sticks of wood to serve as backing and attachment points for the baffle board) and no screws were necessary with the new design.

Any measures that save pennies in production translate to increased profits.

Tony F

Long Island, NY

When you come to fork in road take it
Jul 26th, 2018 09:06 AM   Edit   Profile  

Kinda though it was a cost saving CBS era thing. It does sound good though. I have a warehouse vintage 20 speaker coming Friday to replace the alnico fender which has a small tear. Although it sounds pretty good as is I'm hoping it might sound even better.
thanks guys!
edited to add photo, original owner had it fully serviced including the so called blackface mod.

amp photo

(This message was last edited by Tony F at 11:14 AM, Jul 26th, 2018)

Peegoo
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Jul 29th, 2018 08:58 PM   Edit   Profile  

In the larger combo amps a floating baffle can contribute to the cabinet's tone and the thing can really sing when cranked up. In smaller cabs like a 1x12, etc., I think it doesn't really make much of a difference.

Having a dado in the cabinet panels all the way around the baffle, with everything glued together, does make for a stronger cabinet.

I think they're both a decent design; one is not necessarily better than the other.

Tony F

Long Island, NY

When you come to fork in road take it
Jul 31st, 2018 02:39 PM   Edit   Profile  

thank you
I also wanted to mention this champ gets loud even with the volume knob low. Reminds me of a BF Princeton I had in the 70's. It has vintage USA tubes RCA & GE I don't think that would effect the volume though. Funny how vintage champs can sound so different from one another.

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Aug 8th, 2018 09:55 AM   Edit   Profile  

It's like this with any amp--even the amps made today. They all have their own personalities.

Same goes for guitars: play five Telecasters of the same model in a shop and one will sound better than the others.

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