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M Tracy
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Lafayette IN

Jun 27th, 2018 09:43 AM   Edit   Profile  

That makes sense, thanks wrench. I’m with you on the fear of splitting the wood if I dowel it. I’ll probably use heavy strings as well so I’ll just end up with the same problem again. It’s not like I can’t drill and plug if the epoxy turns out bad. Did you have any problems with the ground setting the inserts into the uncured epoxy? I’m guessing I won’t have much luck trying to solder the ground wire to the insert before I press them in. I’m actually not worried about doing any kind of historically correct repair if there’s an easier, better way. It’ll be a player, it’s not going in a museum.

wrnchbndr
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I'm back with the otters again
Jun 27th, 2018 10:04 AM   Edit   Profile  

Setting into uncured epoxy, although its what I'd like to do, isn't something I've actually figured out how to do because of the ground wire issue and the need to be able to remove the insert at a later date. I'm just fishing in hope that someone will share their solution. In terms of what I've actually been most successful with, I'm putting epoxy in the hole and carefully drilling it to size. You need to plug and then re-drill the hole for the ground wire or you'll leak epoxy into the control cavity. I'm using Devcon from Ace Hardware with no complaints. But getting the hole the exact size is scary -- worth ordering the correct bit from McMasterCarr is the insert is an odd size that you don't have on hand. I coat the insert with paste wax just in case there is some residual ability of the epoxy to bond after a 24 hour cure. You need to be able to remove the insert years later if the ground wire ever breaks. Maybe the uncured epoxy is just a bad idea.

M Tracy
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Lafayette IN

Jun 27th, 2018 10:25 AM   Edit   Profile  

Dang, I knew that sounded too easy. I’ll cut some plugs before I route the back for the b- bender.













Don’t kill me, I’m joking.

Leftee
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VA

Jun 27th, 2018 10:31 AM   Edit   Profile  

What!?!? No Floyd Rose?

M Tracy
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Lafayette IN

Jul 5th, 2018 11:17 AM   Edit   Profile  

It lives again. I ended up cutting mahogany plugs and glueing them in with hide glue, I cooked some up for the neck so I figured I’d do it right. Chipped a little lacquer but it just falls off if I touch the thing so I don’t think it could be prevented. I didn’t have any electric strings with a wound G so the intonation is a little off on the G, the others are pretty good.

The tuners work ok, I’m hoping it’ll settle in and stay in tune for more than a song. Overall I’m happy, it’s my first time even playing a Jr so I feel pretty lucky to have this one.

Front

M Tracy
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Lafayette IN

Jul 5th, 2018 11:19 AM   Edit   Profile  

Here’s the tuners.

Back of headstock

wrnchbndr
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New Jersey

I'm back with the otters again
Jul 5th, 2018 12:03 PM   Edit   Profile  

What a wonderful little guitar.

Leftee
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VA

Jul 5th, 2018 12:11 PM   Edit   Profile  

It lives!!!!

Nice!

Peegoo
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Ooo that sandwich

is gonna get et
Jul 6th, 2018 05:01 AM   Edit   Profile  

Excellent work. Looks great, and it’s back making music!

Therealfrogman
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Pueblo, Co

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Jul 6th, 2018 12:57 PM   Edit   Profile  

Wow! You are doing nicely Mr. M Tracy. Crank it up! I remember a Jr. my brother brought home about 40 years ago just like that one and that sucker had some cajones!

Tune it to open G.....

Mick Reid
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Australia

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Jul 6th, 2018 04:24 PM   Edit   Profile  

Nice job. It's got "character" and back story to go with it.

You should name it Lazarus.


M Tracy
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Lafayette IN

Jul 8th, 2018 10:02 AM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks for the advice and kind words everyone. I’ve been playing it for a few days now and she seems to have settled in nicely. Stays in tune for a whole song and sounds glorious.

The sound man seems to think it’s picking up some noise and I should take it apart and clean and shield everything. We told him to stuff it.

Most importantly it’s back from the dead and getting lots of playing again. I think it is getting named Lazarus, good call Mick.

wrnchbndr
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New Jersey

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Jul 9th, 2018 09:43 AM   Edit   Profile  

I will pick up some noise because its a single coil P90. Not as much noise as a strat because of the physical design of the pickup but some noise is typical. New pots and a jack if they're questionable.

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Jul 9th, 2018 09:55 AM   Edit   Profile  

What a wonderful story! I hope your group enjoys Lazarus for many years.

M Tracy
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Lafayette IN

Jul 9th, 2018 01:44 PM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks guys. The noise is just the normal single coil noise. The other guys usually play humbuckers with more gain than me so it was pretty bad through either of their rigs. I play strats and teles and it wasn’t much worse than normal, but my rig is setup to not add much noise.
I’m reluctant to change anything I don’t absolutely have to so I’ll just clean the pots and output jack, probably tighten it up some as well. I just wanted to play it so I didn’t fiddle with the electronics other than pulling the ground wire out when I plugged the bridge holes. I did put it back.
It rocks a bunch.

Peegoo
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Ooo that sandwich

is gonna get et
Jul 9th, 2018 02:50 PM   Edit   Profile  

Outstanding.

THANK YOU for saving another guitar from the dumpster. It truly is saintly work, brother.

Mick Reid
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Australia

American-made in Oz!!
Jul 9th, 2018 04:07 PM   Edit   Profile  

Why not try shielding?

It wouldn't be a visible change and wouldn't take long to do. It would just be the control cavity and inside of the P-90 cover. (relatively small job compared to a strat)

Could make a big difference.


Leftee
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Jul 9th, 2018 06:39 PM   Edit   Profile  

I think sheilding would take the mojo out. I’ve never cared for it whenever I’ve done it.

I’d rather use a noise gate.

Mick Reid
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Australia

American-made in Oz!!
Jul 9th, 2018 11:41 PM   Edit   Profile  

"I think sheilding would take the mojo out. I’ve never cared for it whenever I’ve done it."

Wow, you must have better ears than me. I can't hear any tonal difference. I think there is an increased capacitance with the shielding but not sure what that equates to in terms of sound.

BTW, I don't doubt you. Just haven't experience it the same way.


Leftee
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Jul 10th, 2018 03:06 AM   Edit   Profile  

To my ears it was very subtle. And maybe I was missing the noise component as part of the tone, if that makes any sense.

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