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5Strats
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GospelBilly!
Jun 16th, 2018 05:49 AM   Edit   Profile  

I've seriously not used a capo on a guitar for decades. However, I used one yesterday for this new song I wrote and it super cool!

I have the capo on the 5th fret for this particular song that has open chords and it really adds something AND it's easier to sing.

Who knew? (;oD

NEXT - Tune one of my guitars to DADGAG, which is another thing I've not done is ages.

Leftee
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Jun 16th, 2018 10:10 AM   Edit   Profile  

Did you have a cape on?

littleuch
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Jun 16th, 2018 10:19 AM   Edit   Profile  

Sometimes re-discovery is as cool or cooler than discovery. I've found myself employing techniques and technology that I thought were new to me, only to uncover an old recording that proves otherwise.

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That's not Han Solo
Jun 16th, 2018 11:00 AM   Edit   Profile  

A capon (from Latin caponem) is a cockerel or rooster that has been castrated. So, no I don't have a capon in this house at the moment.

This on the other hand ... is.

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GospelBilly!
Jun 16th, 2018 04:18 PM   Edit   Profile  

Thus the need for a CAPO! (;oD

Little red rooster didn't crow for days!

Achase4u

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Jun 16th, 2018 04:19 PM   Edit   Profile  

Certain non guitar players snub their nose as capos. Even some guitarists do. Nothing wrong with them. They allow open string sustains and techniques that are not possible otherwise in certain keys. Capo away!

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Jun 16th, 2018 05:32 PM   Edit   Profile  

I would venture a guess that any non guitarist snubbing their nose at a capo just don't understand their mechanics. It's just a moveable nut.

Achase4u

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Jun 16th, 2018 10:52 PM   Edit   Profile  

Exactly. But some see it as cheating. For example, a piano player has no capo that helps with playing in different keys, they just do it. However I think the physical considerations of playing piano in different keys, while tricky, isn't the same as having to either bar an F chord on an acoustic with 12s for half a dang song, or just using a capo and three fingers to play the same chord.

(This message was last edited by Achase4u at 12:53 AM, Jun 17th, 2018)

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Jun 17th, 2018 01:07 AM   Edit   Profile  

"For example, a piano player has no capo that helps with playing in different keys, they just do it."

I've known piano players (well, keyboard players) that everything in C, but just hit the "transpose" button to play in other keys.

Now *that's* cheating!


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GospelBilly!
Jun 17th, 2018 05:19 AM   Edit   Profile  

To those who say its Cheating - Try playing George Harrison's "Here Comes the Sun" without a capo at the 5th fret!

Also, as was stated above, it allows you to play "open chords" in other keys. With a capo at the 5th fret, there's a mandolin-type shimmer & jangle you CANNOT get using bar chords.

AND if you're a songwriter, ANYTHING that helps with a song is a great thing.

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Jun 17th, 2018 05:55 AM   Edit   Profile  

If a capo is cheating, so is detuning, alternate tunings, guitars and basses with more than the alotted strings, etc. It presumes eadgbe is the standard that cannot be violated. Heck, even playing slide is an infraction by that thought process as it circumvents fretting. In regards to digital keyboard transposition, putting everything in C seems excessively lazy. But I know competent keyboard players that see no reason to play Pride and Joy in Eb so they nudge to E, or any other half step modulation.

I'd suspect the anti caponists are mostly music store employees and music store/music board lurkers.

(This message was last edited by littleuch at 08:14 AM, Jun 17th, 2018)

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Jun 17th, 2018 06:04 AM   Edit   Profile  

Capos are great. I've got quite a few. A couple of Shubbs which are great, a couple of Dunlops which are ok, some no makes and G7th, which I don't like.

As I tune all of my acoustics to D I need them for when I play in concert pitch. They're also great for certain songs, like 5S says "Here Comes the Sun" for example.

They're also great on an electric in Open G. "Tumbling Dice" for example.



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Jun 17th, 2018 08:14 AM   Edit   Profile  

I know people that spent more than $50 on a capo. Heck, a pencil and a rubber band work great.

I prefer a chicken bone and a broken shoe string. Makes a real-deal authentic blues tone.

Capo: tasty!

Achase4u

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Jun 17th, 2018 08:46 AM   Edit   Profile  

Agreed with everyone here.

I didn't know some keys players played C and transposed. That is.... Cheatin.

The only thing I like about the expensive capos I've seen is the roller kind. You can swiftly change key in a song with it. But I've never tried that anyway. I love my Shubb. The adjustable factor is great.

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Jun 17th, 2018 12:05 PM   Edit   Profile  

I’ve only started messing with one recently after decades as well. Seems to me it was always wimmens that capoed their guitars into keys to accommodate their vocal ranges. By yourself it matters not .....at a jam session you should be able to at least tell folks the key to a song. And I don’t mean playing a C chord capo at the 11th fret and think you are playing in C.
That said capos are a great tool if you have a complicated song and need to move the key so as not to have to change your chord shapes,licks etc.

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GospelBilly!
Jun 17th, 2018 03:58 PM   Edit   Profile  

"Hallelujah" by Leonard Cohen is another song that needs to be played with a capo at the 5th fret to sound good both on guitar and for vocals.

"Womens"? JOHNNY CASH used a capo a lot. (:oD

Looks like I need a Shubb capo! (I don't even know what brand this old one I have is.)

I've seen David Rawlings switch capo positions on his guitar mid-song while performing.

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Jun 17th, 2018 08:14 PM   Edit   Profile  

Tommy Emmanuel also switches his capo around as part of his shtick. He's good at it.

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Jun 23rd, 2018 04:44 PM   Edit   Profile  

yup. Tommy moves that thing around during songs. He definitely considers himself an entertainer first. Smart move to make a living!

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Jul 22nd, 2018 10:53 AM   Edit   Profile  

When I play the bass it’s not much of a problem but if I’’m playing the guitar it takes me longer to figure out the cords I need to extrapolate from the capo’d guitar. I finally gave in and purchased a capo. Problem solved.

I mistakenly considered it a vocalist thing for players that only knew the cowboy chords. I can hear the dynamic difference when jazzier type chords are being used with the capo.

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