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FDP Forum / Fender Guitars: Telecasters / How to tell a Classic Vibe Tele from the other Squires?

ejm

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Apr 27th, 2018 03:06 PM   Edit   Profile  

If you're buying used, anyone know how?

The two things that might be a giveaway are:
- CV has a 3 saddle bridge.
- The decal on the headstock. The CV appears to say Squier (big), then underneath that Fender (smaller), then underneath that "Telecaster" (smaller).
Other Squiers appear to have the positions different and/or say "Tele".
- The decal color for Squier is gold.
- The tuners. The CV may have the Kluson old style, whereas the others may have the more modern style. The Kluson type have the "square" backs and the slotted posts.

Obviously the Squiers will all be overseas as opposed to MIM.

What am I missing?
What do I have wrong?

Thanks in advance.

(Post spelling corrected, except for the title.)

(This message was last edited by ejm at 10:06 PM, Apr 27th, 2018)

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Apr 27th, 2018 03:32 PM   Edit   Profile  

Well, Squier

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Buena Buena
Apr 27th, 2018 06:56 PM   Edit   Profile  

The only things you're missing from your list are

-Five screws on the pickguard
-No visible neck pup adjustment screws
-Alnico pickups

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Apr 27th, 2018 07:31 PM   Edit   Profile  

I just didn't want you buying a Squire. (-;

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Buena Buena
Apr 27th, 2018 08:12 PM   Edit   Profile  

You can't buy a Squire Tele. It's impossible. They don't exist!

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ejm

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Apr 27th, 2018 08:18 PM   Edit   Profile  

I compared more than several photos from ads on the local CL to come up with my list. The things on my list seem to be unique to the CV.

Peegoo: Thanks for the reply.

With regards to the CV versus other Squiers....

Are there any with more than 5 pickguard screws? (Never mind, I think I may know where you were going. I saw a video comparing a CV with an MIM and an MIA. The last two have more than the CV.)

Are there any with visible neck pup adjustment screws (excluding any humbucker versions)?

Alnico pups: Since I'd be buying used, how can a person tell if they are Alnico? (Excluding any guitars that have had the pups swapped out that may be labeled Duncan or EMG or Noiseless or etc etc etc.)

(I thought about putting this topic in the Squier forum, but it doesn't seem to get a lot of traffic.)

(This message was last edited by ejm at 10:33 PM, Apr 27th, 2018)

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Apr 27th, 2018 09:46 PM   Edit   Profile  

I've seen a lot of Classic Vibe Teles, and I've never seen one with visible adjustment screws on the neck pickup. They height adjustment is under the pickguard, like on the original 1950s Teles.

How to tell the difference between alnico and ceramic pickups:

You lift out the pickup and take a look: if there's a ceramic magnet across the bottom, they're not alnico mags.

See atch pic. The reference to "bulls eyes" is how the tops of the polepieces look. If you see concentric circles like little targets on the polepieces, they're made of steel rods (cut on a lathe, which leaves those tool marks), and they have ceramic magnets.

Alnico magnet rods have to be cut with a saw because the alnico alloy is too brittle for lathe work, which makes it crumble. The saw is usually diamond-faced, and leaves a smooth, polished surface on the polepiece tops.

Look here

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Apr 28th, 2018 02:20 AM   Edit   Profile  

That's a great little graphic you put together there Peegoo!

And a great hint about the bulls eye pole pieces.
I knew that but forgot I knew it, IYKWIM :^)

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Apr 28th, 2018 06:17 AM   Edit   Profile  

Cheers, mate. IKWYM!

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Apr 28th, 2018 07:32 AM   Edit   Profile  

“You can't buy a Squire Tele. It's impossible. They don't exist!“

Zackly!

Fake Squiers are like using $20 bills to make ones.

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Buena Buena
Apr 28th, 2018 08:53 AM   Edit   Profile  

Squier: the name Fender bought from the V.C. Squier guitar strings company and uses it as their down-market brand name.

Squire: the guy who carries a knight's lance when he ain't using the pokey end to knock bad guys off their horsies.

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Apr 28th, 2018 09:43 AM   Edit   Profile  

Or taking care of a nasty boil.

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Apr 28th, 2018 09:47 AM   Edit   Profile  

Back on topic...

The Affinity Squiers will often (always?) have a thinner body. The CV line has full-thickness bodies. I think it's only a 1/4" difference.

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Apr 28th, 2018 11:01 AM   Edit   Profile  

There are some Affinity models that have full-thickness bodies.

But the thinner body is really not a problem if you like the feel and reduced weight.

The biggest problem I've encountered with the thinner bodies is when installing a new lever switch: the good ones (CRL, OG, etc.) often bottom out because the control rout is too shallow for them.

ejm

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Apr 28th, 2018 12:38 PM   Edit   Profile  

Peegoo: Thanks for the pic and explanation.

I should have said: How can you tell the difference.........without taking the guitar apart?

It appears that giving an eagle eye to the pole pieces can provide the answer.


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Apr 28th, 2018 04:38 PM   Edit   Profile  

"There are some Affinity models that have full-thickness bodies."

Yeah the body thickness differences between models and years with Squiers is all over the shop.

This topic is discussed repeatedly on other Squier-centric forums.

I have a '17 Squier Deluxe Strat (MII) that is full thickness (Fender) and also have a '02 Bullet strat (MIC) that is 1-1/2". I had a '95 Squier Standard (MIK) that was full thickness.
Never owned an Affinity.


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