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FDP Forum / The 'Pup' Tent / Humbucker replacement for a P90

spacedawg
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Mar 14th, 2018 08:48 AM   Edit   Profile  

I have a PRS SE1, single P90 guitar. I'm not a fan of the "noise" associated with this P90 and would like to replace it with a humbucker that fits nicely in the P90 rout. Any suggestions?

Thanks for your consideration.

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Mar 14th, 2018 09:20 AM   Edit   Profile  

Kent Armstrong Stealth 90--if you can find 'em. They are as quiet as any standard humbucker.

As noiseless P90s go, they sound closest to the original P90 to my ear; better than Gibson's P100. Not everyone agrees with me on this, but tone is a subjective thing...

The Stealth 90 retains the single-coil clarity and sparkle played clean, and it also has that glorious raw midrange bark when played hard with a crunchy tone.

The pole spacing is identical to Gibson's P90, so you can use the original covers and maintain 100% stealth mode :o)

I installed them in

both of my Juniors and have never looked back.

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Mar 14th, 2018 09:33 AM   Edit   Profile  

The Armstrong Stealth 90 was not issued with a dog-ear base plate (mounting ears on each end; see pic). The ones I've seen are the soapbar style. But there's a fix!

The simple mod is to install a thin slice of Ethafoam or other stiff, flexible material between the bottom of the pickup and the bottom of the pickup's rout. The foam presses the pickup upward against the cover that's screwed to the guitar's body.

The process: install the foam slice and test fit the cover. If you have to press too hard to compress the foam and get the cover to fit flush with the guitar's top, use a sharp knife (a filet knife is perfect) to slice off about a millimeter of thickness and try again.

You want a little bit of upward pressure. Too much and the plastic cover will distort over time.

Closed-cell foam like Ethafoam or Neoprene (mouse pad) is preferred, because open-cell foams like polyurethane upholstery foam compresses and loses its loft over time.

If you go with a thin material like mouse pad neoprene, cut several pieces and stack them up to obtain the necessary thickness.

dog-ear flanges

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Mar 14th, 2018 10:26 AM   Edit   Profile  

Look for a vintage DiMarzio Dlx-1. Awesome bucker in an a P90 size. They are hard to find these days and have gotten pricey. They are worth every penny.

These were the go to PU for those who owned a Les Paul Deluxe with mini HBs that wanted a full HBs sound back in the mid/late 70s. I had a pair in my '76 LP Dlx.

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Mar 14th, 2018 10:34 AM   Edit   Profile  

Mini HB's are great, too. They don't sound like P90's or regular HB's, though.


spacedawg
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Mar 14th, 2018 11:17 AM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks for the input fellas.

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Mar 14th, 2018 11:29 AM   Edit   Profile  

GFS makes a few soapbar-size humbuckers, in addition to Dimarzio.. No personal experience,though.

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Mar 14th, 2018 12:02 PM   Edit   Profile  

I'm about to try a GFS set in a guitar - once I get around to doing the work.

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(This message was last edited by Leftee at 02:04 PM, Mar 14th, 2018)

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Mar 14th, 2018 12:54 PM   Edit   Profile  

I have a set of GFS Gold Foil HBs (P90 form factor) in a homebrew Tele, and they do sound really good.

They're pretty hi-fi in nature, very similar in sound to the original DeArmond Goldtone humbuckers as supplied on Guild electric hollowbodies and some solids. They don't have the P90 mid-range honk, and they have plenty of twang and chime, which is pretty uncharacteristic for a typical humbucking pickup.

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Mar 14th, 2018 04:18 PM   Edit   Profile  

I have a GFS KP Soapbar 180 HB in the neck of my G&L Fallout. It sounds very good to my ears (and I'm not a huge HB fan tbh). I got the Vintage output so it's not super hot. It has plenty of top end even in the neck.

The KP 180 also does not have the dog ears but there is the work-around as discussed above.

FWIW, I tried the KA Stealth 90, and whilst it sounded good, I had trouble balancing it with the bridge HB. It over-powered the bridge no matter how I adjusted either one.
I got the KP 180 and problem solved.

GFS KP Soapbar 180

(This message was last edited by Mick Reid at 06:18 PM, Mar 14th, 2018)

spud1950

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Mar 14th, 2018 06:17 PM   Edit   Profile  

You can also get adapter rings from GFS to fit a mini humbucker into a P90 rout.

Here

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Mar 15th, 2018 05:52 AM   Edit   Profile  

"I have a set of GFS Gold Foil HBs (P90 form factor) in a homebrew Tele, and they do sound really good."

What pots did you use?

I ordered one of their 330k pots to use for volume with this set. I normally use a 250k volume and 500k tone with P90s.

Steve Dallman

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Mar 15th, 2018 07:58 AM   Edit   Profile  

I built a set-neck type tele shaped P-90 guitar many years ago. I didn't like the hum either and found a pair of Lace Sensor P-900's for half price. They sounded just like the SD Vintage P90's I had used, but without the hum. Dead quiet.

Actually, the lack of noise was odd at first as I'm so used to P90s humming

Leftee
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Mar 15th, 2018 08:25 AM   Edit   Profile  

Steve,

It’s good to see you back!

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