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FDP Forum / Moe's Tavern (_8^(I) / e-cigs/vaping for smoking cessation: anyone try it? tips?

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FunkyKikuchiyo
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Mar 2nd, 2018 08:49 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Nah, I'm not a smoker, but have had friends/co-workers that tried everything else at least once and ended up with e-cigs to quit smoking, so it seems like a good option. I realize they aren't perfectly healthy alternatives, but in comparison it seems like a no brainer.

I have a coworker who is currently in some bad health and I want to help him along with it, and will be buying him some stuff. Any tips? Thoughts? He says he had tried them before and didn't stick with it/like it, but he likely got the cheapest one at the gas station, and I hope his failing health combined with a better product will get him to stick. I will visit a local shop on Monday and hopefully get some good advice from the staff there, but just in case I wanted to see if anyone at Moe's had experience.

Are some better for smokers (as opposed to people vaping for the heck of it)? Stuff gets expensive... get what you pay for, or does it turn to snake oil at some point? How would one gauge the nicotine levels? I tried getting a sense of how much he smokes now to see if there is a correlation, but I didn't come up with much.

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Mar 2nd, 2018 10:40 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I quite smoking and took up vaping years ago when they first came out. I like vaping and will continue vaping because I enjoy it. Look up Council of Vapor for product info and facts.

You can email me if you want specifics. I have saved thousands of dollars over the years, my clothes do not stink of cigarettes nor do I. I use two identical units that are small enough to fit in my palm and I am down to 6mg liquid, started at 24mg.

The devices I use are about 45 bucks each and the liquid is 20 bucks for a bottle that lasts a few weeks. These things are like cars, economy and fancy but they all work the same.

FunkyKikuchiyo
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Mar 3rd, 2018 08:55 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks! I am checking FDP before work right now, but will look up that site as soon as I can.

Also, how heavy of a smoker were you? Any frame of reference to compare to my coworker will be helpful, if you think it is relevant.

(This message was last edited by FunkyKikuchiyo at 10:57 AM, Mar 3rd, 2018)

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Mar 3rd, 2018 09:16 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I smoked for 35 years. Anywhere from a pack to two packs a day. Quit 10 years ago with Chantix it really worked for me.

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Mar 3rd, 2018 09:58 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My local bar went smoke-free a few years ago. But vaping is allowed. I am not sure if that is a widespread policy.

Anyway it may help to know for social smokers. You don't have to go outside to vap, perhaps depending on the venue.

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Mar 3rd, 2018 02:14 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The Quebec Health Ministry put out a poster to make smokers come to serious grip with the reality of it all.

Three words only:

Smoke - Suffer - Die

Now, it that doesn’t hit someone between the eyes,

nothing will.

Leftee
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Mar 3rd, 2018 02:38 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Or maybe something else will.

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Mar 3rd, 2018 06:49 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

“Anyway it may help to know for social smokers. You don't have to go outside to vap, perhaps depending on the venue.“

New York has banned vaping in all places where smoking is banned. I’m not entirely sure why, but given that I don’t partake, I don’t care.

I still believe we will eventually learn of the negative health impacts of vaping, likely related to the ingestion of metals from the heating element as some recent studies show. But overall I expect it’s still better than the alternative.

Having known a couple people who used vaping to try to quit, it worked if you consider continuing to vape as “quitting”. I don’t know anyone who used to to bridge a gap between tobacco and not smoking anything at all.

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Mar 4th, 2018 05:46 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

“Or maybe something else will. ”

True enough... for one guy I knew, it was a serious heart attack.

He lived a few months more, but the damage was done.

In High School Biology class, our teacher showed us a pair of human lungs... real ones. The man had been a long time smoker. A large section had been removed during cancer surgery. They looked like a pair of large spunges totally soaked with heavy tar which had then hardened.

I find it hard to believe that people still smoke given what we know today.

Good luck to those trying to quit.

(This message was last edited by Montrealer at 08:00 AM, Mar 4th, 2018)

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Mar 4th, 2018 06:53 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It’s a serious addiction. Some never overcome it.

That makes it hard for us non-smokers to comprehend.



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Mar 4th, 2018 08:21 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If I were to pick up another addiction I think it'd be something people are a little more tolerant of, like shooting up heroin. At least I'd be able to find safe places and free clean needles.

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Mar 4th, 2018 11:58 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I love coffee. But I can stop any time I want.

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Mar 4th, 2018 12:25 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I used zero nicotine e-cigs to quit. They looked like cigarettes and it satisfied my hand-to-mouth craving. I'm convinced I would have been lost without the e-cigs. Eventually, the hassle of using them won out and I was completely cured. Amen and hallelujah!

FunkyKikuchiyo
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Mar 8th, 2018 09:28 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"If I were to pick up another addiction I think it'd be something people are a little more tolerant of, like shooting up heroin. At least I'd be able to find safe places and free clean needles."

Funny, the same analogy crossed my mind.

Thanks for all the input.

Anyway, an update: I visited a local vaping store, and got some good help. I was expecting the staff to know more about it as non-smokers taking it up (that is what the news stories would have you think, anyway) but both of them were ex-smokers who used it to quit, and it seems to be a hefty chunk of their business. I bought him a decent unit for not a whole lot of money and some fluid that should be up his alley. However, he has not made it into work yet this week, so I may not have a chance to give it to him for a while. The upside (if there is an upside) to him being really sick right now, is he may be more likely to give it a shot. He is seriously scaring everyone with his health.

My parents were both smokers and quit in the late 80s, early 90s. My mom ultimately died of lung cancer in 2011, though whether that is due to the smoking or not is doubtful (in my opinion, but that's another matter). My dad quit cold turkey from smoking 3 packs a day, and had to watch his coworkers smoke as well as my mom who would go a few years before quitting herself. What pushed him to it was getting bronchitis 4 times in one year. Doctor promised him the problem would go away if he quit. And it did. His health improved immensely. All he had then was incredible amounts of Carefree gum.

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Mar 9th, 2018 09:59 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Never smoked. Never will. No vape for me.

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Mar 9th, 2018 10:02 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Never smoked. Never will. No vape for me. "

Seconded. I never even tried it. I have been grossed out by it from a very young age.

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Mar 9th, 2018 10:07 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It is said that quitting smoking is harder than quitting heroin.

A good friend is having acupuncture to quit.

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Mar 9th, 2018 02:06 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I know a guy who quit smoking and now uses nicotine gum. He spends about $500 a month on gum.

Leftee
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Mar 9th, 2018 02:54 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Seriously?!?!

rok-a-bill-e
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Mar 9th, 2018 05:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I know a guy who has been on the gum for twenty years at least. I don't know how much he spends but he ALWAYS has one in his mouth. But he finally quit smoking!

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