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jhawkr
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It's all gravy from here on...
Mar 1st, 2018 03:47 PM   Edit   Profile  

I want one for retirement!

Hammond101
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Mar 1st, 2018 03:55 PM   Edit   Profile  

Nope, they are a total PITA to work on. My ex GF's son bought one when he got his DUI. Guess who had to keep it running.

The companies who make them seem to go in and out of business. Parts can be an issue in my experience.

If it where made by Tesla or Space X, maybe I would reconsider.

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Nine mile skid on a ten mile ride
Mar 1st, 2018 04:06 PM   Edit   Profile  

Meh, get a Brompton!

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Taildragger
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Mar 1st, 2018 04:13 PM   Edit   Profile  

My main problem with attaching any sort of propulsion motor to a bicycle that will propel it faster than you can peddle is the issue of stopping the bicycle efficiently once you reach those higher speeds.

Now that most bicycles are equipped with disc brakes, that's probably less of a problem, I guess.

Another issue involves the amount of rubber that is actually in contact with the road at any given moment. If I had a motor of any kind on my bicycle, I think I would opt for some pretty fat tires.

The final issue involves the sound generated by a motorized bicycle, which amounts to basically almost nothing. When people ride motorcycles in traffic, car drivers often don't see them and are only alerted to their presence by the sound of the IC engine.

So, let's see: you'll be going faster (meaning you must be able to react to danger more quickly), may not have adequate stopping power, will be whisper quiet so car drivers may not notice you and will have minimal tire contact with the pavement.

So I guess I'd say that I would only be interested in riding an electric bicycle (on the street) if it was specifically engineered taking all of these factors into careful consideration.



Pinetree
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Mar 1st, 2018 06:01 PM   Edit   Profile  

Ebikes are the future.



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Mar 1st, 2018 06:34 PM   Edit   Profile  

If you take the electric and make it a gas engine and take the bike and replace it with a motorcycle, it sounds great.

Pinetree
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Mar 1st, 2018 07:05 PM   Edit   Profile  

I'm thinking that a lot of you guys aren't really familiar with the new e bikes.

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Mar 1st, 2018 07:41 PM   Edit   Profile  

No thanks! My wife and I ride 40 to 60 miles almost every weekend (unless we go hiking instead). We do it exclusively for the exercise. We're not out to see the country side or meet other people, and we don't use it as transportation. It's strictly a fitness activity and we have no desire for assistance. If we wanted motorized two wheelers we'd get scooters.


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Mar 1st, 2018 07:53 PM   Edit   Profile  

"I'm thinking that a lot of you guys aren't really familiar with the new e bikes."

$2K+ and no suspension? That surprises me: seems like at least front shocks are pretty prevalent on even relatively inexpensive bicycles these days (excluding road bikes).

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Mar 2nd, 2018 04:07 AM   Edit   Profile  

What a bunch of backward looking people! You can and most riders do pedal and use the powerpack for an assist riding up hills or grades, against the wind, etc. You can go 25 miles or so on a charge with heavy use of the battery. The brakes are mostly disc front and rear and power automatically disengages when brakes applied. The tires are fat and have a better tire footprint to road to weight ratio than a motorcycle. A typical ebike weighs in about 60 lbs. The center of gravity of an ebike is much lower than a typical bicycle with rider resulting in better stability. Top speed, typically around 20mph is slower than the top speed capability of a decent roadbike.

Costco is rolling out ebike sales in their special event sales this year. When Costco jumps on board... You can also order one from Walmart. You are going to see a lot of these around very soon.

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Pinetree
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Mar 2nd, 2018 05:16 AM   Edit   Profile  

That's the least expensive one they list.

$4K gets you a nice bicycle these days.


jhawkr
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Mar 2nd, 2018 05:35 AM   Edit   Profile  

This is what Costco is selling. Genze, made by Mahindra.

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Mar 2nd, 2018 05:51 AM   Edit   Profile  

Kinda sorta defeats the purpose of a bicycle (for me...YMMV).

Pinetree
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Mar 2nd, 2018 06:02 AM   Edit   Profile  

Yeah, but it gets people out there.

I ride 3-400 miles a month in Summer, and there's a 12% grade between my house and a favorite trail. Currently, I just put it on my bike rack and take the car to the next trail head, but I can see where an e bike would be nice.


Yes, there's lots of people who can pedal up a mountain, but I'm not one of them.



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Who's we sucka?

Smith, Wesson and me.
Mar 2nd, 2018 06:06 AM   Edit   Profile  

So are all the rich little kids going to become a plague on the roads with these things?

They better not ride on MY lawn!

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Mar 2nd, 2018 08:39 AM   Edit   Profile  

----"Yes, there's lots of people who can pedal up a mountain, but I'm not one of them."

My area is very hilly and on some of them I have to walk and push. I would pay for a boost up the hill, which is way more exercise than staying home because I'm not up to those hills today. I don't care anything about going faster and I'm not going to commute or even ride in traffic, anyway.

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Mar 2nd, 2018 09:13 AM   Edit   Profile  

I've been out of the loop from my cycling days several years ago. At one point I felt that I could climb anything. I plan to start MTBing again, but only pedal-powered. I can imagine the looks you'd get from people on the trails.

I would love an e-bike for other uses. Right tool for the job, etc.

Mikeyguitar
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Mar 2nd, 2018 09:30 AM   Edit   Profile  

These things have been out for quite some time.
It's like anything - some people will by it just because they can.

Most people that are seriously into cycling will just bypass these gimmicky vehicles.
But for those who enjoy cycling but are getting too old, or those that have some sort of injury or disability will find these e-bikes useful.

On our Wednesday group ride we came across an older couple that were out doing their thing on e-bikes. Good for them!

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stl80
Mar 2nd, 2018 09:44 AM   Edit   Profile  

For $4K you can get a nice scooter.
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MJB
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Smith, Wesson and me.
Mar 2nd, 2018 09:51 AM   Edit   Profile  

I got a nice 6 year old electric golf cart for $1700.

Of course it's useless outside of my community.

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