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rwb

Canada

The Plankster of Love
Mar 1st, 2018 10:06 PM   Edit   Profile  

Digiboy, are the Dano Shorthorn repros the same as the old ones from the 60's? I've never seen any repros except the longhorn... I have a 1962 Shorthorn, and I'd be interested in what you've tried fro strings on yours. Mine was very uneven, with the D string always louder no matter what I did with pickup height. Then, I broke all the rules and put a really old set of TI-Flats on it (taking a chance on cutting them down off an old P bass) .... and they are really sweet (and being TI's will probably go another 10 years!)
A real upright bass kind of tone...

Sorry to highjack the "Old Guy Rig" thread....

My old guy rig is all Quilter, total of 62 pounds, 2 tens in one cab, one twelve in the other cabinet....800 watt head built-in wherever I put it...carry the whole thing up a flight of stairs....


Tony Wright
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Stillwater, OK

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Mar 1st, 2018 10:39 PM   Edit   Profile  

After reading a post made by my friend, the Maestro, that discussed small size bass rigs and transport and weight issues, I picked up a used Eden EX110 cabinet (25 lbs, 300 Watts at 4 Ohms) to mate with my Ampeg PF350 class D amp head (8 lbs, 200 Watts at 8 Ohms; 350 Watts at 4 Ohms).

The EX110 is available as either an 8 Ohm cabinet or a 4 Ohm cabinet, both rated for 300 Watts.

I ordered a used 4 Ohm cabinet from GC online because I wanted to pull as much power as I could IF I needed that many dB at one of our gigs.

We primarily play private house parties and small venues like coffee shops or wine bars...acoustic electric 2 piece or three piece when we bring in percussion. Mostly Americana, Red Dirt country/rock, soft rock from 60s-70s, and folk music.

We played a local saloon on NYE 2017/18 and using my PF350/EX110 rig, I had plenty to hang with the guitarist to be heard over a rowdy audience of around 130-150ish without PA support that night.

I had a fair amount of surfing to find the EX110 via the FDP, which leads me to suspect it may be discontinued. But, as I said, I found it at Guitar Center dot com/used so I was able to route thru that approach.

In an A/B test with the same Ampeg PF350 amp head into an 8 Ohm 300 Watt Ampeg SVT210AV cabinet compared to running thru the Eden EX110 4 Ohm cabinet, the Eden was louder and had more punch.

Geezer bass rigs...hired gun (with thinning gray hair), will travel.

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HeavyDuty
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Northeast IL

Not very bright but does lack ambition
Mar 2nd, 2018 06:59 AM   Edit   Profile  

I moved to a smaller modular rig a few years ago.

I ended up with a G-K MB500 as my main head with a MB200 as a backup. I have a lightweight G-K Neo 4x10 that I prefer, but I also have a pair of G-K Neo 1x12s. Lastly, I still have a small G-K MB150E-112 combo.

I’m pretty well covered!

L. Nedmundo

Philadelphia

Mar 2nd, 2018 07:04 AM   Edit   Profile  

I also like those Eden 1x10 cabs. I've tested basses through them, and they sound great.

The Hartke Hy-Drive 1x12 is another excellent small cab, with switchable impedance (4 or 8 ohms), which is a mightily cool feature for those contemplating "old guy" rigs. If I weren't so happy with my G-K gear, I'd consider downsizing to my Roland combo with one of these.

Cal-Woody

USA/California

Why do I keep fixing things that work?
Mar 2nd, 2018 08:56 AM   Edit   Profile  

I know a lot of fellas that were hesitant to go to a smaller rig but the new Class D amps can really carry strong low end frequencies because they have such a fast recovery rate and the amps don't saturate like others and stay clean at high volume. Bass players are getting some really nice options these days for compact rigs and the amps don't suffer the same ills of old. The dynamics, tone and volume are all there and when paired up with some Neo cabs, you have a light weight, gut wrenching rig! Nice!

digiboy

New York City

Mar 3rd, 2018 01:33 AM   Edit   Profile  

@rwb:
I'm a lefty. My Dano Shorthorn is a lefty Korean reissue from late 90's I believe. (got it used from Reverb). I have no experience with an original 60's model to compare. As said before, I like it a lot. Local shop did some tweaking for me, truss rod adjust and setup and replaced the bridge with a better made OEM (they are prone to sagging in the middle) and replaced the input jack. TI flats have been my go to strings on all my basses. They sound great on the Dano. I also use a foam mute. The Dano is ultra stable now, stays in tune like my P basses, even with big temperature changes during winter.

The Korean Dano reissues are considered to be very well made. I still see the lefty Shorthorn models pop up on Ebay and Reverb, I imagine righty models would be even easier to find.

Getting back on topic, I often carry the Dano to gigs on my bicycle. Carrying a P bass like that and playing gigs was giving me back and shoulder aches. The Dano made a huge difference to this old timer.

Rick Knight
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St Peters, MO USA

May I be excused? My brain is full.
Mar 3rd, 2018 08:21 AM   Edit   Profile  

I've enjoyed everyone’s descriptions, pics and comments.

It never occurred to me that someone could build an instrument out of 2x8s, but it looks great.

digiboy, what does the shorthorn weigh?

I like the idea of a grab and go 1x10, but don't know if it would really be used enough to justify the purchase.

darrellsteely

Dayton,OH

Mar 3rd, 2018 08:31 AM   Edit   Profile  

I love my Fender Rumble 500C. Only weighs 37# and is 350 watts all by itself. Seems louder than that though. When I'm feeling rambunctious I bring along the other 210 cab and watch out. Those two, together kick some serious butt! My 6# Streamliner head along with the 210 are a great change of pace. Recently picked up a Zoom B3N and it fits in the gig bag with the Genz and adds a nice flavor to that set up. How did we ever drag around 810 cabs back in the day? I guess we did what we had to do. Sometimes progress is a good thing.

Rick Knight
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St Peters, MO USA

May I be excused? My brain is full.
Mar 3rd, 2018 09:20 AM   Edit   Profile  

"How did we ever drag around 810 cabs back in the day? I guess we did what we had to do."

Indeed. My late 70s band also had a Hammond B2, a Leslie cabinet and a 2 ton truck with no lift gate. Somehow, the guy who played the B2 never seemed to be present when we lifted them in or out of the truck.

themaestro
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Wichita, Kansas

Drums = pulse, Bass = heartbeat
Mar 3rd, 2018 09:25 AM   Edit   Profile  

Mr. Steely,

I just recently got a Zoom B3n, also. It is replacing a Boss ME-20B + FS-5U switch pedal (for bank switching). So far I like it. It is smaller, don't need the extra switch, has amp and cab sims that I didn't have before. I don't miss the volume/wah rocker part of the 20B. I never used it except as an on/off volume switch.

The only band I use the pedal with is a cover band. For church, big band and other stuff. I go straight to the amp.

For the cover band, I use a Genz Benz Shuttle 6.0 and an Avatar B212. For everything else, I have been using a Carvin MB210. If I have a really small acoustic type thing, I use a Carvin MB10, which weighs almost nothing.

darrellsteely

Dayton,OH

Mar 3rd, 2018 09:38 AM   Edit   Profile  

Bob, an effects pedal is new to me. I always plugged straight in and let 'er rip. The learning curve on this thing may be a little long, but so far I like what I can find with the presets. One of these days I'll get to reading the manual. Instructions? I don't need no stinkin' instructions! Yeah, old habits die hard.

digiboy

New York City

Mar 3rd, 2018 09:48 AM   Edit   Profile  

"How did we ever drag around 810 cabs"

If I had the space to store it and a handful o' roadies to move it everywhere, I'd still never play through anything but an SVT rig!

"digiboy, what does the shorthorn weigh?"

I've never weighed my Dano Shorthorns. You could probably look it up somewhere. I doubt there is much variation in weight from one to another since they are all made from the same materials. It's certainly lighter than most any P bass. That much I can tell.

Laker

Forgive your enemies

but never forget their names
Mar 3rd, 2018 01:04 PM   Edit   Profile  

What I’ve used as my “old guy rig” has been an Eden WTX500 into a TC Electronics 210 cabinet. It’s a very light weight, nice sounding setup, but doesn’t perform well in any setting other than a cocktail lounge.

For regular gigs I’ve gone back to using my Aguilar DB680 into a Crown K2 driving one (or two if needed) EA VL210 cabinet. It’s not as cumbersome as the days of using a Sunn Model T powering two folded horn 18 cabinets, and with the addition of a collapsible cart it’s fairly easy to handle DB680/K2 rig.

Bubbalou

USA

THE LOW END OF UPPER TEJAS
Mar 6th, 2018 08:37 PM   Edit   Profile  

I am another old guy whose amp and cabs got much lighter.
GB streamliner 600 (600 Watts RMS into 4ohm load) and 2 - 1 x 12 GK cabs that I put Eminence Kappalite 3012 HO Neo Speakers in.
Head 6lbs and each cab 32lbs. Me and my back are much happier

Lewis

USA

Who is E. Sandoval?
Mar 9th, 2018 02:23 PM   Edit   Profile  

"old guy rig". Speaking of old, one of the oldest rock stations in the country is changing it's format this Saturday night. Sad day for old guy rockers everywhere.

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BonkersBass

Tejas

Do'in the 5 string thing!
Mar 12th, 2018 11:41 AM   Edit   Profile  

All my rigs are old guy rigs - cause I'm an old guy.

Rig #1 - Fender Rumble 200 V3 - for practice, small gigs, band rehearsal and church - 35 lbs.

Rig #2 - Genz Benz Streamliner 900 (900 watts, 6 lbs.) and two Aguliar SL112 cabinets - 25 lbs each, total weight 56 lbs.

Rig #3 - Genz Benz Shuttle 6.0 (600 watts, 3.5 lbs) and Epifani UL 410, total weight 62 lbs.

I can play any gig I'm likely to encounter with these rigs. Everything was purchased used except for the G_B shuttle.

rwb

Canada

The Plankster of Love
Mar 12th, 2018 05:27 PM   Edit   Profile  

@Rick Knight -

My 1962 Dano Shorthorn weighs about 6.3 pounds


Sure is nice after my solidbodies - gotta love a hollow chunk of Masonite

Rick Knight
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St Peters, MO USA

May I be excused? My brain is full.
Mar 13th, 2018 07:41 AM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks, rwb. That is amazingly light. I like light basses and have some that weigh less than 8 lbs, but none under 7.

kart24
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Vacaville CA

Runs with scissors !!
Jun 18th, 2018 10:59 PM   Edit   Profile  

Ampeg SVT7Pro over and SVT410HLF. Its all about being light weight or having casters.


thedqmanfla

USA

Dots Only!
Jun 22nd, 2018 09:58 AM   Edit   Profile  

Also an ole fart here
Genz benz 9.2 with 1x12 cabinet
Replaced the speaker with a Faria
1600 watt 1x12 neo
Total rig 36 lbs
Will never need another!!!

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