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saturn
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Feb 27th, 2018 02:04 PM   Edit   Profile  

It can get serious pretty fast.

We are used to severe drifting, rather than anything else. Our rule, generally, is you don't set off anywhere if there is more than twenty inches of fresh snow, and you don't set off anywhere on old snow of more than around a foot.

It is a given you go nowhere during a whiteout, and when you see or know heavy and persistent snow is on its way.

Common sense really, but too many people ignore the warnings and are ill equipped.

A £30 come along can facilitate self recovery in many situations, along with proper rope, some sacks and basics like proper shovels.

A couple of sacks of firewood is excellent for regaining traction.

We carry enough recovery kit to reach a couple of hundred feet. That covers most snowdrift situations. Then there are other options, like leaving while the leaving is good, on foot.

No need for all the drama, but the press do stoke it up.

The Drifters..

(This message was last edited by saturn at 04:14 PM, Feb 27th, 2018)

HeavyDuty
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Feb 27th, 2018 02:25 PM   Edit   Profile  

The biggest thng that would concern me about driving in rural UK areas after a snow is bouncing off those $#*@ kerbs - why on earth would you put setts along the road in pastureland?

(This message was last edited by HeavyDuty at 04:27 PM, Feb 27th, 2018)

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Feb 27th, 2018 04:47 PM   Edit   Profile  

How else are you going to get home from the pub without running off the road?

HeavyDuty
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Feb 27th, 2018 06:13 PM   Edit   Profile  

Lol. There is that.

saturn
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Swinging The Lead
Feb 27th, 2018 06:43 PM   Edit   Profile  

Kinda helps you keep out of the ditch.

HeavyDuty
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Feb 27th, 2018 07:33 PM   Edit   Profile  

You wouldn’t like driving rural roads here, then!

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Feb 27th, 2018 07:43 PM   Edit   Profile  

The curbs come in handy when the fog is so thick that you can’t see the end of your hood.

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6L6
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Feb 28th, 2018 09:21 AM   Edit   Profile  

I too LOVE the UK!

Hope Denmark Street is still open...

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Feb 28th, 2018 09:21 AM   Edit   Profile  

Delete/Double Post

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Feb 28th, 2018 09:59 AM   Edit   Profile  

For the first time in almost 10 years, I couldn't make the 15 mile drive to work today.

All 3 road options were closed/ treacherous, so I'm working from home and have permission to do so for the rest of the week.

saturn
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Swinging The Lead
Feb 28th, 2018 03:48 PM   Edit   Profile  

Leftee> "The curbs come in handy when the fog is so thick that you can’t see the end of your hood.

Bonnet

Whateves"

LMBO!

(Laughing my bottom off!)

Leftee
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Feb 28th, 2018 03:56 PM   Edit   Profile  

I lived over there for 6 years. (-;

HeavyDuty
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Feb 28th, 2018 04:49 PM   Edit   Profile  

Saturn, better than your fanny.

saturn
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Swinging The Lead
Feb 28th, 2018 05:03 PM   Edit   Profile  

Lol!

Fanny!

HeavyDuty
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Mar 2nd, 2018 09:20 AM   Edit   Profile  

How much snow are we talking here? Looking at pics in the Grauniad of a typical road closure it looks like barely enough to run the snowblower here. Is drifting the issue?

saturn
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Swinging The Lead
Mar 2nd, 2018 12:48 PM   Edit   Profile  

HeavyDuty, you got that right! It all stems from the way our roads are set up, especially in the south.

You can't get off them easily, so once a few get stuck you are too. I ran into one of these extended road blocks a few years ago. I had crashed on a mission to get to London during severe weather, and ended up getting a last train, then a coach, and purchasing a lifted 4x4 on Ebay, which I then collected en route.

Did my business and drove back north, and had to negotiate blizzards all the way, including one stranding motorists over a long section near Glasgow and north. I managed to use the hard shoulder and the overtaking lane, (which always gets blocked quickly as everyone crawls in the 'slow lane'), to get past everyone, and even picked up a family whose car was off the road.

I would never countenance sitting in my car all night in sub zero temperatures!

Big problem here is few people fit winter tyres.

We have proper snow tyres on everything, and all the gear we need to get unstuck in every vehicle. Very few people bother with that!

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Mar 3rd, 2018 01:42 AM   Edit   Profile  

Perceptive comments: as I said in my original post, we seem to be taken by surprise every time it snows and then the media whip up a panic. We've had roads closed, including some motorways, airports and rail services shut down, hundreds of drivers stranded in vehicles, troops called in to help, panic buying in shops, even a scare that the supply of domestic heating gas would run out (the energy companies just bought more, but the price went up). To be fair, this bout of snow has turned out to be worse than usual and has covered all of the country to some extent. But better preparation at all levels, from the government to individuals, could avoid a lot of misery. Fortunately it seems to be getting better now, very slowly.

Pinetree
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Mar 3rd, 2018 06:33 AM   Edit   Profile  

This sums it up pretty well.

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Ayns
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Mar 3rd, 2018 06:48 AM   Edit   Profile  

To be fair, as davywhizz says, it's been the worst bout of snow most of the U.K. Has had for 7 or 8 years.

The official line is that we *could* prepare for this kind of event but as it only happens so rarely, it's not "economically viable "

saturn
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Swinging The Lead
Mar 3rd, 2018 04:53 PM   Edit   Profile  

Pinetree hit the nail man!

One thing we could do here is adopt a practice seen across most of Europe, of requiring proper winter tyres.

That would solve most of the problems.

Just got back home from driving a few hundred miles through two blizzards and managed to average over 60mph overall. Thanks to decent tyres!

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