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K4
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Feb 26th, 2018 06:18 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My Son, Marine Sgt served 10 years left on medical, no longer world wide deployable, is graduating engineering school this May.

He has two job offers.

One is from a major diesel engine manufacturer, the other is from the Navy.

The Navy is offering 10 years senority walking in the door, 30 days vacation ect...

Starting pay is close, benefits are better with the Navy, Pay is better with the private company over time.

He wants my opinion. I think he is in a Win Win situation. I said I'll think about it but there is really no wrong answer.

What advise would you give your Son or Daughter in the same situation?

MJB
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Feb 26th, 2018 06:33 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

30 days vacation for the win!

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Feb 26th, 2018 06:33 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Personally, I'd go with the Navy and its pension/health benefits. Especially, if there is a commission possible.

My son is Air Guard, non-deployable and graduated with an EE. He chose not to go the commission route as he'll retire a Msgt.

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Feb 26th, 2018 06:40 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Navy.

Is this major diesel engine OEM heavily invested in alternative fuels and electric? That world is changing fast! There's going to be lots of turmoil in the marketplace.

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Feb 26th, 2018 06:51 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I would say benefits trump salary long-term. Also, you don't mention what application these diesel engines would be used for. In addition to leftees comments I would add AI. If the engines are being used to move people or product the humans operating them are an endangered species too.

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Feb 26th, 2018 07:00 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

NAVY is stable , benefits better.

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Feb 26th, 2018 07:01 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

win/win like you said. Given that he is in the enviable position where he can consider which job offers him the most interesting and rewarding work and environment. Which people did he feel he would most like to be around for the bulk of very day? Putting the economics aside for a moment where would he rather be?

I have intentionally not maximized my earnings potential as it has afforded me a more optimal work experience and personal life balance.

In his case it sounds like it's pretty darn close either way on economics, so it sounds like he can go to whichever place he would most like to work.

(This message was last edited by Moose0130 at 09:03 AM, Feb 26th, 2018)

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Feb 26th, 2018 07:25 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I work for the Navy. Navy everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.

30 days vacation plus sick time. As an added bonus, you get about every holiday there is off. ;)

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Feb 26th, 2018 07:39 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Navy. He can always transition to private later, and his Navy experience will make him more valuable.

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Feb 26th, 2018 07:46 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yep - Navy.

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Feb 26th, 2018 07:51 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

K4!!! Obviously great job on raising your son. My hats off to you. Congrats.







K4
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Feb 26th, 2018 08:29 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The Navy base he would be working at is in BFE Indiana, So no Hawaii or any beach area. Does that sway any opinions.

The other company is Cummings, I think it's OK to say that.

Also Indiana but in a large city.

He is 30 with a wife and one kid

Leftee
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Feb 26th, 2018 08:42 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Cummins

I’d go with the Navy for sure.

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Feb 26th, 2018 09:08 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Go Navy! And btw I'm an old Air Force dude.

Juice Nichols
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Feb 26th, 2018 09:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

“The Navy base he would be working at is in BFE Indiana”

Just get his foot in the door. He can transfer to somewhere cool later.

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Feb 26th, 2018 09:13 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

What is the potential pay disparity over time, and is he required to lock into the Navy position for a set period of time?

Might make sense to take the Navy job now, if it permits him to switch to the private sector later after gaining some on the job experience, like HD said above.

Leftee
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Feb 26th, 2018 09:16 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

There is a potential for the Corp. job to pay more over time. Also to be laid off. Lots of big changes coming in the industry. And it is a cyclical business any ways. Sometimes dramatic swings.

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Feb 26th, 2018 09:32 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Navy. Can't beat gubmint jobs. The numerous holidays, job stability, and medical benefits are just a few of the perks. It's a no brainer.

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Feb 26th, 2018 09:47 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

+1 HeavyDuty -

"Navy. He can always transition to private later, and his Navy experience will make him more valuable"


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Feb 26th, 2018 09:50 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'd go Navy. I did the dream job with a fortune 500 company thing and it fizzled out 8 years later with a down size. They later went BK leaving me with none of my vested benefits.

Jobs with big companies can be volatile. Your either in with the in crowd or your not and that can change very quickly. It doesn't matter how good you are, your screwed. If a VP or manager above you falls out of favor you may be done or suffer a major setback. Your division may be sold to a corporate raider then shut down. Navy all the way.

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