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FDP Forum / Miscellaneous and Non-Fender Topics / I'm going to hell: I didn't buy a guitar and instead got one of those synth things..

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Charente
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Feb 25th, 2018 02:49 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ain't no Telecaster!

I think you may need to refer to the manual with that one Rob.

Just out of interest, apart from the obvious fact it's a keyboard how does it compare in terms of capabilities with guitar synths such as the GR55?

reverendrob
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Feb 26th, 2018 02:21 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Two different beasts.

The GR-55 does a ton but isn't very hands on while playing (for obvious reasons and the fact it's not knobs and sliders).

I have a Roland System-1 as well (which I sometimes will use the GR-55 in conjunction with or just as a "guitar synth with different voice module".

Deep Mind 12 is a 12 voice analog polysynth (System-1 clocks in at 4 voices), GR-55 is somewhere around 64-128 poly high end but has two distinct PCM synths plus the vGuitar modeling (+/- 24 on a per-string basis in the software, among other things).

Mostly I want it for a larger keybed than the System-1 and as a second sound module for the GR-55, as well, as the hands-on control/tweaking.

I go different places playing with knobs and sliders than I do guitar, and different places even more with knobs+sliders (albeit limited) and guitar instead of keys.

Charente
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Feb 26th, 2018 08:45 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks Rob.

I've yet to take the plunge but have been interested in guitar synths for some time but feared they might be a poor man's synth for those who are keyboard phobic.

Sounds more like they both have their place.

reverendrob
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Feb 26th, 2018 08:49 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The GR-55 is not a shoddy beast by any stretch - the PCM synths are individually tweakable ad nauseam. This is not the "select violin, that's what you have" of old.

Full on ASDR/adjustable settings/etc.

BrentD
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Feb 26th, 2018 03:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I LOVE synths. Sound is sound. Congrats on your purchase and let us know how you like it.

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Feb 26th, 2018 07:14 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I think I'll cook up some plastic noodles for dinner and watch for the devil to appear on the front porch - just because I read this post.

reverendrob
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Feb 27th, 2018 01:54 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That seems like a fair choice, considering most of my purchases are routed through your fair abode!


Modal Magic

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Feb 27th, 2018 02:44 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have been GASing badly for a Synth, either a Dreadbox Erebus or Nyx. Not really compatible for guitar but I've being itching to experiment with Pink Floyd sounds. I have no interest in digital and really want an analog synth.

I'm borderline on taking the plunge because I still don't understand them enough and would like at least a little guitar compatibility. Probably will need a sequencer as well for "On The Run" type sounds as well. I am reluctant to buy add-ons to get the sounds from in my head, hence further reluctance.

reverendrob
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Feb 27th, 2018 04:14 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

For digital, I wasn't sure myself.

The Roland System-1 is digital but I'd never guess by listening to it or by the 'no menu diving, hands on' thing. Limited in the sequencer department, but a lot of analog or ones aping them are. It fulfills my "pretend it's Hawkwind day" well enough!

Mostly I can say just keep your eye open and see what works and is available and just play with one if you can.


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Feb 27th, 2018 06:27 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I still like ya. (-;

Charente
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Feb 27th, 2018 06:39 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"pretend it's Hawkwind day"

The mind boggles. Who gets to play Stacia?

reverendrob
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Feb 27th, 2018 08:48 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Nobody, and the role of Lemmy is played by this here pile of trucker's speed.


Charente
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Feb 27th, 2018 09:55 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Aww- shame!

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Feb 27th, 2018 05:03 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Rev, That's a pretty cool unit. I had a GR-33 for a while but didn't use it enough to warrant keeping it and sold it to a buddy. Someday a Moog will sit on top of my Hammond in the living room. That presents a whole new world of problems of what do I plug it into to have it make actual noise.

I'm enjoying a Behringer XR18 these days as my main gigging PA board (I love being wireless ditching the snake!) and find it good for recording too. I like Behringer electronics, they deliver a lot of band for the buck. I'm not wild about their powered speakers but that's a different subject entirely.

Enjoy! Congrats!

Modal Magic

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Mar 1st, 2018 10:20 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I ended up ordering an EHX Superego. For what it is it does a lot and I like that it has an effects loop. From what I can tell it does the layering thing well. I also bought a Mattoverse Electronics TetraStep MKII to do the sequencing thing. I like it 'cause it can be used as an independent sequencer or be overlaid with bass or guitar. I've also got an analog Red Witch Synthatron so I think I have enough to delve into the world of synth and experiment.

I would've liked a Boss SY-300 if it was just a synth and sequencer, didn't have a bunch of standard effects, had an effects loop (like the Superego) and simple, immediate access to change settings (without delving into menus). Would be perfect for me, but oh well.

reverendrob
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Mar 2nd, 2018 10:51 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've thought about the SY-300 but I have the GR-55 - two radically different approaches to sound sculpting but equally menu (or application, which is much better) divey.

The inclusion of the effects honestly is just a "what it is" - it wouldn't have cut the price of the thing any.

Effects loop adds reasonable pricing to things of that nature (since it's another A/D conversion combo and all that entails)

I'm just hoping against hope for a new GR-series synth someday.

And waiting for FedEx to deliver the synth this morning, it got delayed a day by winter storms earlier this week.

Taildragger
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Mar 2nd, 2018 11:58 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

What you need...

...is a Guitorgan:

reverendrob
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Mar 2nd, 2018 12:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

No thanks, I don't need to be an Iron Butterfly tribute band.

reverendrob
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Mar 3rd, 2018 03:17 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Played with it a few hours today, I'm going to be learning the thing for months or more.

It is deep on options.

That said, I was able to dial in things that made me happy from the getgo, and ended up trapped in horrible Blade Runner soundtrack land for a while.

BrentD
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Mar 5th, 2018 05:12 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

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