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Ryder
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Butterscotch Blues
Feb 23rd, 2018 10:33 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My 50+ year old Rockwell drill press is about to die a loud death...sounds like a bearing to me.

My first wife’s grandfather built it for metal work at home at least 50 years ago. He had worked at Coleman in Wichita also for 50 years.

It’s basically a floor unit made into a bench top.

I need a bench top model, 1/2 in. Chuck...and modern.

Not too many to look at on Amazon. The Wen gets good marks. I thought they made hair clippers.

Taildragger
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an acquired taste some may never acquire
Feb 23rd, 2018 10:58 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'd replace the bearings and hang onto it. I have and old Delta DP-220 from the 1950s and love it. I bought it from a metal fabrication shop that was going out of business due to owner illness back during the early 1980s. It had seen hard service with him but continues t'serve me well to this day. Pretty tough t'beat good ol' MIA arn.

But your needs may be different from mine. Even if it needs work, I'll bet you could get a few bucks for it off CL because old Delta, Walker-Turner, etc. tools have a following (though, as with electric guitars, that following may be dwindling).

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Feb 23rd, 2018 11:00 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I’d bring it back to life and drill on. It’s got history!

Ryder
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Butterscotch Blues
Feb 23rd, 2018 11:24 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I may need to get rid of it.

I need to be able to tilt the table. This one has a table too large for it, and the bit hits the table rather than go through the hole. I usually have a piece under what I'm drilling into anyway.

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CO2 ... is there anything it can't do?
Feb 23rd, 2018 12:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

There must be a way to rotate the table to align the chuck with the hole in the table. Can you put up a pic so we can figure it out?

As far as tilting the table -- you can buy a drill press vise that tilts -- or it's pretty easy to make a wooden fixture to get you the angle you need.

I have an old floor standing Clausing drill press that I rescued from a dumpster and have been replacing parts over the years as needed to keep it running. It's the best tool in my shop. So obviously, I'm also voting for replacing the bearings.

Edited to add:

Sorry -- I missed the part about the table being too big for the press -- so this is a Frankenstein machine. No matter -- you can just drill a new hole to align with the chuck. Start with a small bit and continue with increasingly larger bits until you get the size hole you need. Use the slowest speed your machine has and use plenty of oil and feed the quill very slowly.

(This message was last edited by NoSoapRadio at 03:19 PM, Feb 23rd, 2018)

Taildragger
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Feb 23rd, 2018 01:47 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'ce seen some Delta/Rockwell drill presses that have a larger table with an oil rough around the perimeter. Maybe that's what Ryder has.

I have an inexpensive, adjustable-angle drill press vise. Have fabricated some other "appliances" to help hold oddly-shaped material (e.g.: tubular stock) in place for drilling: as simple as a piece of angle iron welded on its corner to a steel plate. Have also made things out of scrap wood to hold work pieces at specific anglers relative to the direction of travel of the bit.

Ryder
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Butterscotch Blues
Feb 23rd, 2018 02:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The plate on the side of it says Rockwell. I found the Delta Cover on ebay many years ago. The guy promised it would fit or I could send it back for free. I bought it and it fit perfectly.

Anyway, I will admit to being somewhat of an artist, but I can't say the same about my mechanical skills. So, I really don't want to take it apart.

It also weighs a ton!

And yes, I've used other pieces to drill angles and that stuff.

Rockwell Drill Press

Taildragger
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an acquired taste some may never acquire
Feb 23rd, 2018 02:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I think that one is a 17" 17-210. Mine is a 14"-er.

Ryder
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Butterscotch Blues
Feb 23rd, 2018 02:34 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It has a serial number, and made in Pittsburgh, PA.

It is quite loud now.

Taildragger
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an acquired taste some may never acquire
Feb 23rd, 2018 02:47 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"It also weighs a ton!"

I see from your profile that you're about my age. Careful moving that thing: last time I moved mine from its old location, I did it by myself, a piece of foolishness which may have contributed to my developing an inguinal hernia which required repair. Yours is probably even heavier than mine.

Displays of macho bravado are for the young...

NoSoapRadio
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Feb 23rd, 2018 02:53 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That's a nice machine you have there Ryder. If I lived in your area I'd love to help you break it down and restore it.

Anyway -- if you don't want to deal with it, you might put it up on Craigslist. Someone will snap it up quickly. You will likely get someone to pay what you are looking to spend on the Wen.

Sorry I can't help you on a recommendation for a newer machine -- I just haven't needed to look into them. But the drill press is such a central piece of equipment in a shop -- I encourage you to think long term and buy the best you can afford.

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Feb 23rd, 2018 03:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Buy used, a quality name, and save a ton.

Delta, Craftsman, Jet, and other big names all use jellybean (common) bearings, and they are inexpensive. The older the machine, the better it will be. Make sure the chuck is operating smoothly and the motor stays cool.

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Feb 23rd, 2018 04:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If you were here, or me closer, I'd give you one.
Mine with keyless chuck and I have owned it since 1972 !

BUY USED !!!

Lots of garage and yard sales around.. skaroo krags list and the rest of the bottom feeders.

(This message was last edited by jefe46 at 06:32 PM, Feb 23rd, 2018)

Taildragger
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an acquired taste some may never acquire
Feb 23rd, 2018 05:49 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"...skaroo krags list and the rest of the bottom feeders."

Have to partially if respectfully disagree there, jefe: there are many things I wouldn't shop on CL, but I have picked up a nice, old Delta 14" band saw and an old Delta 24"jig saw on CL for good prices.

But I do agree that CL dealings can be a PIA and even dangerous and I don't sell stuff there.

Ryder
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Butterscotch Blues
Feb 23rd, 2018 07:03 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks guys. I won’t be lifting it. Bad back and three heart attacks. That just might do me in.

Nosoap, you are just a little too far...always the case.

I bought a barely used Delta X5 14” bandsaw on C.L. and have been quite happy with it. I know to check something over before buying.

I’ll just have to keep my eyes open around here.

I also wonder if someone around here could fix it and at what cost?

(This message was last edited by Ryder at 09:07 PM, Feb 23rd, 2018)

Taildragger
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an acquired taste some may never acquire
Feb 23rd, 2018 07:47 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The people who frequent the site linked below might be able to help you. I got lots of good advice and even some parts from them when tuning up the old machines I bought. Lot's of knowledge/experience there.

LINK:

BbendFender
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About as ordinary as you can get.
Feb 23rd, 2018 09:23 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've had a Delta bench top model for over 20 years. Serves my purpose and never a problem.

De ville
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Feb 23rd, 2018 09:31 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

These guys look to likely have parts for your drill press. They rebuild at least the spindle/chuck. Perhaps they do more, or can help you find out more about the rebuild process.

On the other hand, a nice Jet might be just what the DR. ordered. Northern Tool has them. The 579.00 model looks pretty sexy.

While rebuilding an old machine to keep it going is admirable, sometimes they need a complete overhaul to be an accurate and reliable machine.

Hammerscale

(This message was last edited by De ville at 12:28 AM, Feb 24th, 2018)

Ryder
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Butterscotch Blues
Feb 24th, 2018 08:14 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Good resources!

Wouldn’t mind a jet drill press. I’ve got a jet tablesaw that is a good one.

But, I’m not rebuilding this drill press. I don’t know enough to attempt it.

Northern only shows the $799 model.

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CO2 ... is there anything it can't do?
Feb 24th, 2018 08:31 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Rockler has a homeowner grade press for $299.

I don't know how you are going to use the machine. Maybe this will do?

Jet 12"

(This message was last edited by NoSoapRadio at 11:49 AM, Feb 24th, 2018)

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