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FDP Forum / The Squier Forum / Up grade the tuning keys on my new Fender 2017 Affinity Strat

fender213

USA

Marcus Swicegood
Feb 22nd, 2018 01:51 AM   Edit   Profile  

Hello FDP, can i intstall some new Fender locking tuner keys on my new 2017 Fender Affinity series Strat? Just drop em in and tighten! Without any drilling or other problems, like them changing my action height? and will the head sock accept the 2 little stud post locking prongs on the back of new tuners? I own a Fender Amer 1995 Strat Plus which is the total BOMB of Strats in my option!!! But let me tell ya boys & girls, this new little China made Affinity Strat guitar Plays & feels some kind of AWESOME!!!! Neck is skinny, and plays great! For $200 dollars "WOW"! I think it creeps out of tune, just a hair too much for my taste. But its just a 2nd dairy, practice guitar that i don't have to case & uncase all the time w/ young grand kids coming by, just get it off the wall and practice with it! Thanks Marcus here in NC.

reverendrob
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our time in hell
Feb 22nd, 2018 02:34 AM   Edit   Profile  

Action height is controlled by the nut/neck curvature/bridge saddles, not the tuners. That won't change or be an issue.

As far as "will it drop in", probably not. You could call Fender and ask if you're using all Fender parts - or pay the premium to buy at a local music store that should be able to answer those questions. Or call somebody like Sweetwater and tell them you want locking tuners for your Affinity Strat, and if they have any drop-in options.

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armadillos
Feb 22nd, 2018 07:12 AM   Edit   Profile  

Agreed.

Other stuff:

If the tuning is inconsistent over time, it is not the tuners--unless you're incorrectly loading the strings on the posts.

Unstable tuning is rarely a symptom of poor tuners. If they're not broken and they don't move in their mounting positions, even the cheapest of tuners don't "slip." That being the case, the smoothness of operation IS dependent on the quality of the tuner.

Unless a tuner is physically broken or improperly loaded, the cause of unstable tuning on Strats is due to one or more of the following factors, such as

- Improper tuning technique (you must always tune up to the note; never down)

- Improperly stretched-in strings

- Loose neck mounting

- Excessive friction in the nut's string slots or headstock string tree(s) (use lube)

- Excessive friction in the bridge string paths (use lube)

- Excessively worn/old strings

- Broken or worn pivot points in a fulcrum (vibrato) bridge

- Improper fit of the vibrato block in the body (friction against the internal rout)


Mick Reid
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American-made in Oz!!
Feb 22nd, 2018 03:09 PM   Edit   Profile  

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
+1 Everything these guys said.

I will add that I'm 99% sure the Squier will not have 2-pin tuners on there. So no "drop in". You would need to drill the pin holes.

The tuner holes on a Squier will be 10mm, so you will need to get appropriately sized tuners for easiest installation.

If you're dead set on replacing the tuners, there are lots of good quality after-market brands available and some will indeed drop in.


fender213

USA

Marcus Swicegood
Feb 22nd, 2018 08:04 PM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks everybody for the feed back! I got a little buzzed last night & had a brain fart about the tuning peg height changing the action height, i should have know that it rolls over the nut, but i'm still a little green on this stuff and get cornfused some times when brain thoughs are racing around in me skull, trying to tweak things too much! Lord knows what the head aches mught be like & the money, in trying to be compet, in the drag racing scene!!! Final analis, is i think my strings maybe settling in now. Things are better on staying in tune, it s been about a week now! Maybe i paniced! Any way everybody, you got to go and look @ reverendrob last pic on his profile, what an idiot does to a guitar!! Dude i just thought i had some tuning issues! Got trem springs hooked to loop end of the guitar string, OMG, LOL this is a must see!

fender213

USA

Marcus Swicegood
Mar 12th, 2018 10:57 PM   Edit   Profile  

Hi FDP, this is Marcus here in central NC. Mick Reid you are right!! Just got and email from Sweetwater, they also say that i would have to drill holes to make the locking tuners pins fit an drop right in & tighten right up! They sugg that a TECH would be the best route to preform this task & I agree!!!! But the beauti of this story, is that i'm a HEAVY strummer, Changed the ole 9's out to 10's on my string gauge & everything is holding & in tune & were good to go now!!! Thanks everybody who left feedback!!

musicalmartin

UK

Apr 7th, 2018 01:30 PM   Edit   Profile  

I have an Affinity Strat I bought very cheaply off gumtree .After a good set up including fret level ,fairly mild ,and a trem set up,it stays in tune very well so I suggest the stock tuners are good to go .Much tuning problems are nut slots too tight .

Fairchase

RV'er all over

Aug 15th, 2018 07:07 PM   Edit   Profile  

I'm changing the clunky tuners on my Strat Squier Bullett. I chosen grover mini tuners. Question is will I still be able to do custom tunes ' eg. Drop D , open G, etc.

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