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littleuch
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Feb 12th, 2018 12:11 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Having successfully created a tempo map for a project with live drums and replacing them with MIDI, I thought I was done entertaining that tedious work.

Oh, Nay!

Opening up another project that I used an Alesis SR-16 drum machine on, I find that I cannot successfully lock in the original tempo. It drifts!

It's been so long I can't remember if the SR-16 allowed for a "real-feel" drift. I know one could create patterns with quantize off, but I think all were slave to a master BPM tempo. Using tab to transients I'm getting 189 BPM to 195 BPM.

Crap.

(This message was last edited by littleuch at 02:12 PM, Feb 12th, 2018)

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Feb 12th, 2018 07:56 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Perhaps you were synched to a tape striped track through midi and that carried over through tape speed variation from AC voltage variation. The resolution on midi has caused a few quirks as they have tightened it up over the years as well.
I would copy and quantize the copy first ....maybe setting quantize to a 50 percent setting. At least it's just a copy and can be dumped easily. Not my strong point recording but just a thought. tempo mapping is not fun.

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armadillos
Feb 13th, 2018 07:07 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My SR16 does have adjustable drift to allow for a more ‘human’ sound.

littleuch
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Feb 13th, 2018 10:14 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have gotten rid of my SR16 a while back and didn't use it for quite a while prior. I do recall the feature for patterns, I don't recall it for assembled songs and thought they were all set to a fixed bpm. Either way, I went through and mapped it in Pro Tools. So cool a feature, albeit a slow one.

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Feb 14th, 2018 06:33 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks for reminding me why I chose not to dive into this deep water. I just don't have the patience.

thumbpicker
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"Thumbpicks don't slide into soundholes"
Feb 21st, 2018 10:13 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I still use my old SR 16. It does have a humanizing function as to patterns I believe but I don’t recall it doing so in the main tempo.

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