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Feb 8th, 2018 12:44 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My youngest granddaughter (2) had tubes put in her ears this morning. Mom says she's being herself but tired this afternoon. The little varmint is the 3rd grandchild who has had the procedure. Constant ear infections, fever, misery until the tubes are installed then like magic, all better! Who thought that poking a hole in a child's eardrum and putting a tube in to keep it open would be a good thing!

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Feb 8th, 2018 12:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

All three of my sons went through them when they were young.

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Feb 8th, 2018 01:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

While that beats the pain and crying from constant ear infections I would hope that someone is researching the matter of why we have an epidemic of chronic ear infections in children these days.

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Feb 8th, 2018 02:47 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My youngest son is 28. So I’m talking 20 - 30 years ago.

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Feb 8th, 2018 02:55 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Toobs beat pumping a kid full of antibiotics, (often to no avail), by a mile! And, when the little ones are very young all they know is they hurt.


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Feb 8th, 2018 03:05 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My little sister had it done ca. 1978.

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Feb 9th, 2018 11:46 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My younger son had tubes put in his ears back in the '80s. His middle son had them put in at maybe age 5, maybe younger. Photos made after the tubes were put in show him smiling a lot more.

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Feb 9th, 2018 11:54 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My daughter was about to get the tubes for a chronic ear infection, but the doctor sent us to a specialist at Boys Town as a last resort.

This doctor said that we would try steroids, and if that didn't work then she would need the tubes.

So she went on a 10-day course of steroids, a huge amount on Day 1 and then less every day after. She ate everything in the house and blimped out like you wouldn't believe, but it worked. She never had ear problems after that, and the weight fell off in a couple of weeks.

It was a miracle.

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Feb 9th, 2018 01:28 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Here is the little varmint.

Almost 2

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An old story I'd heard from way back, which still seems to hold true (based on readings): breastfed babies tend to have a reduced chance of ear issues. This has been attributed to Mommy-supplied biochemicals; the forward suckling motion breastfeeding requires, working the jaw in such a way that the Eustachian tubes are 'exercised'; and even the position the baby is held for breastfeeding. Our two breastfed sons never had ear issues, but a large percentage of others we knew, who did not breastfeed, were sure enough dealing with the tubes.

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Feb 10th, 2018 06:19 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

^And, a lot of people have a reaction to cow's milk which is to produce more mucus from the mucous membranes of the respiratory tract. This can clog up the middle ear, especially if there is any biomechanical restriction of the area around the auditory (Eustachian) tubes.

Trying no dairy (milk, cheese, any milk products such as whey in cookies etc) would always be my first recommendation. We don't need milk past weaning and can get everything we need from other sources. We're the only animal on the planet which drinks milk past weaning, and cow's milk isn't designed for us.

Glue ear tends to clear around age 6 or 7 as there is a growth change in the angle of the auditory tubes and gravity helps drainage. But it's a long time to wait, and children's development can be hampered if they have unrecognised hearing difficulties so it always best to get sorted out.

And 'cranial' osteopathy can help address any biomechanical issues around the tubes.

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Feb 11th, 2018 04:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

FYI, the child was fed formula (Similac), not cows milk when she was on the bottle. Her siblings had the same issue and both ended up with the tubes with good results. Real easy to second-guess the situation as even I don't know all the facts. My daughter-in-law's parents are both surgical nurses with 30+ years of experience. I have no doubts the right decision was made for granddaughters circumstances. At any rate, word is she's bouncing around like nothing ever happened. We'll be picking her and her brother and sister up this morning and keeping her for 1/2 day.


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Feb 11th, 2018 05:17 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

vomer nails it. Growth can often relieve the issue.

One of our sons had glue ear and some associated developmental delays.

I get all cloggy when I eat/drink dairy.

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Feb 11th, 2018 07:03 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

jhawkr, yes, kids should get grommets if they need them, definitely the right decision if they reach that point. Sorry if I wasn't clear when I said "best to get it sorted out". I'd always suggest trying the no-dairy & osteopathy option first, but grommets if those don't make a difference.

One potential problem with grommets is that they tend to fall out and you're back to square one, having them refitted and so on.

I checked a couple of Similac products and they contained cows milk, I don't know if their full range does. Most infant formulas do unless you look for alternatives.

I wish I'd known about dairy and its effect on sinuses, breathing, and vocal cords, a long time ago. Pro singers know about it, many avoid it, and it made a big difference to my singing voice giving up dairy. I'll still have the occasional treat and it's very noticeable on the voice if I do too much.

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Feb 11th, 2018 08:27 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Cheese usually doesn’t bother me. Sadly, ice cream does.

I haven’t had a glass of milk this century.

Dang autocarrot!

(This message was last edited by Leftee at 11:12 AM, Feb 11th, 2018)

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Feb 12th, 2018 05:54 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Must suck to be lactose intolerant. I was bottle fed with cows milk from day one back in the 50's and never had ear problems. I'm wondering what percentage of the population is adverse to dairy? I'm guessing a fairly small segment if ice cream, cheese and milk sales are any indication.

We don't have milk in the house except on occasion for cooking but we always have cheese and ice cream.

FWIW, the 2 year old has been off the bottle for at least 6 months and wants water in her cup, not milk.

(This message was last edited by jhawkr at 08:28 AM, Feb 12th, 2018)

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Feb 13th, 2018 03:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I had tympanostomy tubes as a toddler and apparently it helped my mother sleep.

Most pediatric ear infections are viral/inflammatory however and there is decent evidence to suggest that the side effects of treating "acute otitis media" with antibiotics outweigh the benefit.

Tried telling my mom this once and heard something about "sleepless nights" and "constant crying" and felt it better to not say that in the future.

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