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Ragtop
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The older the violin

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Feb 16th, 2018 01:33 PM   Edit   Profile  

H101, they are nice ebony pins, and they ARE slotted.

I say nice because I usually have to buy them myself to replace plastic pins. These even have the MOP dot that I like.

Ragtop
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Feb 20th, 2018 04:20 PM   Edit   Profile  

The LaBella strings have been on for about a week now, and they turned that guitar into exactly what I was hoping it would be. It is very bell-like in that the notes really ring, and great separation.

Very dynamic too, the whole guitar reverberates against my chest and leg as I play.

Hammond101
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Feb 20th, 2018 05:07 PM   Edit   Profile  

"the whole guitar reverberates against my chest and leg as I play."

To be a keeper for me an acoustic guitar must have this trait. All of mine do.

I'm going back to that store with the Santa Cruz here locally tonight Ragtop. I must have not remembered the number correctly on the tag. I did email SC about it. They seemed jazzed to help me.


Ragtop
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Feb 21st, 2018 04:40 AM   Edit   Profile  

I keep going back to your photos of that little guitar, H101. It's a beauty, something special.

Yes, if you can swing it, skip the Eastman and grab the SC. That price seems more than fair. And GC has that good return policy should you not fall in love with it.

Hammond101
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Feb 21st, 2018 09:21 AM   Edit   Profile  

I went back last night and played it again. Heavenly little girl for sure. Strings are done and that's a good thing. It may not be as attractive to someone else! It does have one small issue and that's a bridge saddle that is tilted toward the neck slightly and bowed a bit towards the neck in the middle. Slight gap at the back of the saddle. Still, I think it's a $5-6K or ?? used guitar at $3K.

The bling though! Not really my style. I'm a wood guy! Ha!

I have I bit more info I want to provide SC so I can get an idea of actual value. Then I may put it on lay a way and sell a couple of electrics.

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Feb 22nd, 2018 09:52 AM   Edit   Profile  

I’ve been AWOL for a week or so. I did string up the 00-15 with the Silk and Steel. Took a bit to get used to them, after a few hours they started to sound really good. A bit more tension than my fingers like but worth the tone.

Ragtop
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Feb 22nd, 2018 02:09 PM   Edit   Profile  

Hmm, I found the tension to be greatly reduced, and that's on two different guitars that I tried the S&S strings on.

Glad you like the tone, though; and it will get even better.

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Feb 22nd, 2018 02:17 PM   Edit   Profile  

I’ve been using round core 11’s and round core 12’s on the two acoustics.

I can get used to it, just can’t play quite as long. One strung up with the lighter gauge makes burning in new tunes and new finger technique a bit quicker.

(This message was last edited by hushnel at 12:47 PM, Feb 23rd, 2018)

Tony Salieri

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Feb 23rd, 2018 06:37 AM   Edit   Profile  

A couple of friends--their band was The Steve & Bob Show, based in San Antonio, now disbanded--were in Santa Cruz a few years back, and did the factory tour. Their wives took possession of their credit cards while in CA to stop any impulse purchase.

True story (at least as told to me).

Ragtop
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Jul 5th, 2018 08:36 AM   Edit   Profile  

This SC is, without a doubt, the finest guitar I've ever owned. Gorgeous woods, impeccable build quality, and ethereal tone.

So why am I thinking about trading it away?

The neck is just about a normal, medium sized neck. But I need more these days. I need a big ol' chunky neck. I just don't play the SC as well as my other guitars. I need at least the Martin Modified V neck.

I've become just too damn picky about necks.

Chris Greene
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I miss Kelbo's
Jul 5th, 2018 09:02 AM   Edit   Profile  

Something I learned long ago was you adapt to various necks, action set-ups, etc.

My D42 has a rather slender neck while the HD-28V has the mod V. I honestly don't notice the differences when playing them, I just adapt.

Big necks used to be a thing for me but not anymore. I suppose much of it has to do with your hand size, whether one is suffering from anything like arthritis, etc.

Maybe SC can fit a new neck if you like everything else about the guitar?

Ragtop
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Jul 5th, 2018 09:42 AM   Edit   Profile  

Adapt? You bet, that's what I used to do, neck size/shape didn't matter. I could play anything and didn't really notice any difference.

I do have a touch of arthritis in my thumbs now, and that's part of it. My other two acoustics have 1 11/16" nuts, but a fair amount of "meat on the bone" behind the nuts and they play just right for me.

Part of my problem is that I bought an Eastman E10P when I started looking into mahogany, and it had a massive neck which I really came to love, and I've been chasing that neck size ever since. I sold it to jump up to the SC, hoping that the SC neck would be fatter. Wish I could put that Eastman neck on the SC, I'd have something there.

Don't think I'd have SC build a new neck, though, I'd be into that guitar pretty deep if I did.

Chris Greene
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I miss Kelbo's
Jul 5th, 2018 10:08 AM   Edit   Profile  

A shame to have to sell the SC but if it's not what you want these days...

Ragtop
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Jul 5th, 2018 10:16 AM   Edit   Profile  

I know, too bad.

Like I said to the SC, "It's not you, it's me."

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Jul 5th, 2018 11:14 AM   Edit   Profile  

Yeah, it is a shame, I’ve been able to adapt like Chris says, going from bass to guitar to ukulele and back with various necks in the instrument groups.

Last Saturday I went to rehersal, it was pouring down rain and the studio is a good 1000 yards or better from the house, out in cattle field actually. Al says grab the Strat, so I’m noodleing around on it, he picks up his jazzy archtop and we play for a couple of hours. I really noticed the neck on the strat, he told me it was a 50 style, soft V with a 7 1/4” radius. I played it all that time with no hand fatigue at all. I may have to pay more attention to this kind of stuff as my hands go south.

Chris Greene
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I miss Kelbo's
Jul 5th, 2018 02:47 PM   Edit   Profile  

My favorite Strat is a CS 1956 NOS which has that great neck. Actually, most of the Strats I've owned have or had the 50's style neck with the 7.25" radius.

I should say, regardless of what I wrote earlier, I still prefer slightly meatier necks.

You might give Martin's HD-28V a look (or similar necked models).

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Jul 5th, 2018 03:51 PM   Edit   Profile  

Certainly an unfortunate development. Santa Cruz makes beautiful, great-sounding guitars.

As for necks...

I never would have guessed that my preference would evolve towards meatier necks (within limits). Back in the day it seemed that those slender necks just would make it easier and faster to play. But it turns out (for me) that's not necessarily true. My #1 Strat, though a production model from late '98, has a much beefier neck than most modern American models. While it is a 9.5" radius, it must have missed a step or two in the finishing process as it is noticeably chunkier in its grip. And this is by far the best Strat I've ever played or owned (including vintage and Custom Shop stuff). Every time I put my mitt around that thing I say...."aaaaaaaaahhhh." What great comfort and playability. I never would have guessed that's what I'd ultimately like best.

YMMV...

Ragtop
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Jul 5th, 2018 09:04 PM   Edit   Profile  

If it's the one in your profile, stratcowboy, that is a stunner of a Strat.

Chris, I had an HD-28V. Nice guitar, the neck was good, but I much preferred my old Guild D-46. And I was getting interested about then in mahogany after being a rosewood snob all my life. So I sold the Martin (to Eddie Money's drummer, of all people!)and began my immersion in hog-backed guitars.

I do miss having a Martin around, though. Am interested in the 00-18V, am hoping to find one to test drive soon.

Hammond101
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Jul 9th, 2018 04:46 PM   Edit   Profile  

Interesting development. I find it amazing how we fall out of love with our instruments.

Ragtop
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Jul 9th, 2018 05:32 PM   Edit   Profile  

True, H101. It's a mystery.

I posted it today "For Trade" on another site. I've gotten some amazing offers.

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