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Ragtop
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The older the violin

the sweeter the music.
Feb 8th, 2018 05:12 AM   Edit   Profile  

If I can hang in there, I can ski for free at Monarch Mountain once I turn 69!

I still ski hard, but not from 9 to 4 like I used to. Six or seven runs and I'm ready to head for home.

I taught my kids to ski when they were kids, and both now out-ski me. That makes me proud, though.

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Feb 8th, 2018 06:41 AM   Edit   Profile  

"Viera, are you anywhere near the Santa Cruz factory?"

The Santa Cruz factory is in the San Francisco Bay area. I'm down here in the San Diego area, so not very close. I hear that they do give tours, but I believe that it requires a reservation. I'd like to do it.

stratcowboy: sorry dude. :)



stratcowboy
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Feb 8th, 2018 06:52 AM   Edit   Profile  

Copper's a great mountain. But it will certainly wear you out faster than Monarch. Once you're blasting around at Monarch, you'll feel like a hero!

"We now return you to our regular scheduled programming..."

Ragtop
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Feb 8th, 2018 07:26 AM   Edit   Profile  

I like Monarch, it's about half locals and half Texans (or so it seems). 50 minutes from my house, so I can run up there, do six or seven runs, and head back home. I've found 2 runs, Ramble On and Little Mo, that I like so I just stay over there. The best part is that I can park, put on my gear, and walk to the lift in 10 minutes.

My Monarch season pass gives me access to Copper 3 times a year, I think. Copper is a real treat, first class skiing.

And, yes, it will wear you out! I'm feeling it today.

reverend mikey
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You're old. Then vintage. Then good!
Feb 8th, 2018 08:01 PM   Edit   Profile  

"I taught my kids to ski when they were kids, and both now out-ski me. That makes me proud, though."

Exactly...isn't that the way it's supposed to be?

That's what happened to me with my son who plays guitar (I'm 60; he's 27) - he's definitely a better player than me now (although I know all the theory and chords that he's still learning...).

Tom B.

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Feb 8th, 2018 08:42 PM   Edit   Profile  

" The Santa Cruz factory is in the San Francisco Bay area. I'm down here in the San Diego area, so not very close. I hear that they do give tours, but I believe that it requires a reservation. I'd like to do it."

Highly recommended. Several years back we were in Santa Cruz at a guitar shop and I asked if SCG gave tours. The shop gave us the phone number and recommended we call ahead to see if we could stop by. SCG said sure. Got there and Richard Hoover stopped what he was doing and took my family around for at least an hour, even though he was getting ready for NAMM the following week. He was a very gracious host and a genuinely nice guy. I'm an engineer and we had a great discussion about the mixture of art and science in using various tonewoods to produce an instrument with certain desired aspects. Learned there is a lot that goes into making a custom instrument what it is.

(This message was last edited by Tom B. at 10:44 PM, Feb 8th, 2018)

Ragtop
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Feb 8th, 2018 09:35 PM   Edit   Profile  

I don't know if I'll ever get to take the tour, but the SC website is just outstanding. It has several videos within it with Mr. Hoover talking about what he does. and lots of shots of the SC building process.

SC Guitars

(This message was last edited by Ragtop at 11:37 PM, Feb 8th, 2018)

Ragtop
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Feb 16th, 2018 10:32 AM   Edit   Profile  

A couple of observations after a good polish and string change:

1) SC cut the channels for the strings in the bridge where the strings come up and out and over the bridge. Have never seen that before; usually the strings have to do it themselves over time.

2) I don't plan to install a K&K like I almost always do. Good thing, too, because there isn't much bridge plate to work with under there. It could be done, but it would be tricky.

3) The Gotoh tuners are great. The hole is much smaller than usual, which seemed to make restringing just a bit easier. And the hole is higher up than most too. lots of room for the wound string.

4) The seam down the back is practically invisible. I searched in bright light for quite a while before I was able to spot about a 3" run it towards the bottom. The rest of it can't be seen.

5) If you remove the saddle while polishing, you should always put it back before putting all six strings back on. Saves you doing the restring twice. Don't ask me how I know this.


I put LaBella Silk & Steel Lights on it. They are a bit twangy now, being new. They sure look classy though, kind of a platinum color.

reverend mikey
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Feb 16th, 2018 10:45 AM   Edit   Profile  

Just put a set of Gotoh SE700 tuners on my D-35. I agree, they're very well made, and they look very vintage (even though these aren't "aged" or anything). Made in Japan, good stuff.

Also put a set of Gotoh "relic aged" Kluson style on my J-45 - again, Made in Japan, and they look and function great (and are so much lighter than the old Grovers that were on both the J-45 and the D-35).

BTW - keep going back and looking at that photo of your guitar - major drool!!!

Ragtop
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Feb 16th, 2018 11:04 AM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks, mikey!

Another thing about those Gotohs- each one turned with what felt like the same amount of resistance.

Usually, out of the six, some turn easier than others. But these were all the same.

I think that tells you something.

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Feb 16th, 2018 12:57 PM   Edit   Profile  

LOL at #5 above! I only laugh because I have been there.

SC may use non-slotted bridge pins? This may account for the slots in the body of the bridge?

Ragtop
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Feb 16th, 2018 01:33 PM   Edit   Profile  

H101, they are nice ebony pins, and they ARE slotted.

I say nice because I usually have to buy them myself to replace plastic pins. These even have the MOP dot that I like.

Ragtop
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Feb 20th, 2018 04:20 PM   Edit   Profile  

The LaBella strings have been on for about a week now, and they turned that guitar into exactly what I was hoping it would be. It is very bell-like in that the notes really ring, and great separation.

Very dynamic too, the whole guitar reverberates against my chest and leg as I play.

Hammond101
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Feb 20th, 2018 05:07 PM   Edit   Profile  

"the whole guitar reverberates against my chest and leg as I play."

To be a keeper for me an acoustic guitar must have this trait. All of mine do.

I'm going back to that store with the Santa Cruz here locally tonight Ragtop. I must have not remembered the number correctly on the tag. I did email SC about it. They seemed jazzed to help me.


Ragtop
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Feb 21st, 2018 04:40 AM   Edit   Profile  

I keep going back to your photos of that little guitar, H101. It's a beauty, something special.

Yes, if you can swing it, skip the Eastman and grab the SC. That price seems more than fair. And GC has that good return policy should you not fall in love with it.

Hammond101
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Feb 21st, 2018 09:21 AM   Edit   Profile  

I went back last night and played it again. Heavenly little girl for sure. Strings are done and that's a good thing. It may not be as attractive to someone else! It does have one small issue and that's a bridge saddle that is tilted toward the neck slightly and bowed a bit towards the neck in the middle. Slight gap at the back of the saddle. Still, I think it's a $5-6K or ?? used guitar at $3K.

The bling though! Not really my style. I'm a wood guy! Ha!

I have I bit more info I want to provide SC so I can get an idea of actual value. Then I may put it on lay a way and sell a couple of electrics.

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Feb 22nd, 2018 09:52 AM   Edit   Profile  

I’ve been AWOL for a week or so. I did string up the 00-15 with the Silk and Steel. Took a bit to get used to them, after a few hours they started to sound really good. A bit more tension than my fingers like but worth the tone.

Ragtop
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Feb 22nd, 2018 02:09 PM   Edit   Profile  

Hmm, I found the tension to be greatly reduced, and that's on two different guitars that I tried the S&S strings on.

Glad you like the tone, though; and it will get even better.

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Feb 22nd, 2018 02:17 PM   Edit   Profile  

I’ve been using round core 11’s and round core 12’s on the two acoustics.

I can get used to it, just can’t play quite as long. One strung up with the lighter gauge makes burning in new tunes and new finger technique a bit quicker.

(This message was last edited by hushnel at 12:47 PM, Feb 23rd, 2018)

Tony Salieri

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I'm a tone deaf hack.
Feb 23rd, 2018 06:37 AM   Edit   Profile  

A couple of friends--their band was The Steve & Bob Show, based in San Antonio, now disbanded--were in Santa Cruz a few years back, and did the factory tour. Their wives took possession of their credit cards while in CA to stop any impulse purchase.

True story (at least as told to me).

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