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Mick Reid
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American-made in Oz!!
Feb 10th, 2018 06:41 AM   Edit   Profile  

"Paddington approves!"

Hah!

He's such a regular in my shop, I don't really notice him anymore!

1600
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Feb 10th, 2018 08:58 AM   Edit   Profile  

Looks good Mick. Exactly like I expected based on your description of intentions. Did you use a rasp for the contours or something with power? I used a rasp for the one body I cut contours on and it worked great.

Mick Reid
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Feb 10th, 2018 04:00 PM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks 1600.

"Did you use a rasp for the contours or something with power?"

That's a question that I'm a bit reluctant to discuss, so I'm just going to say "power".

I was going to do it with a rasp, but we sold our horses and all the horse gear. I didn't have the forethought to keep the hoof rasp!


Leftee
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Feb 10th, 2018 04:09 PM   Edit   Profile  

Oh, now we gotta know!

Mick Reid
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Feb 10th, 2018 11:07 PM   Edit   Profile  

“Oh, now we gotta know!”

Oh, ok...

As I said plan A was the rasp, which was sold amongst a lot of horse grooming gear. Plan B, I was going use the Wasp sander that fits on my drill press.

I bought the Wasp last year and had never used it apart from fitting it onto the drill press, switching it on and watching it spin.
“Cool.. it goes round and round, I’ll use that on my next project.”

Fast forward to now... the Wasp is a total POS!
The belt just slips if I apply anything more than just a very light touch. I pull that apart, chuck it in the bin.

Plan C. After being p-o'ed about the wasp, and not owning a belt sander, I went to the only tool left in my "material removal arsenal" that I thought *might* work........... my 4" angle grinder.

I had some sanding flap discs (for timber) so I figured I'll just test it out on a small area where the tummy cut is going to be and see how it goes. My biggest concern is that my grinder is not variable speed so I was worried about "burning" the wood with too high rpm's.

Turns out, with a soft touch and watchful eye, it can be done. I roughed it in with the grinder, fine tuned it with P120 on a detail sander then finished off by hand with a block and 240.

I don't recommend it for the faint of heart because it *could* go horribly wrong... fast!

Not one of my finer "fine woodworking" moments, but I got it done.

More pics to come!

(This message was last edited by Mick Reid at 01:10 AM, Feb 11th, 2018)

Leftee
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Feb 11th, 2018 05:20 AM   Edit   Profile  

That’s the manly-man way to do it!

vomer
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Feb 11th, 2018 07:13 AM   Edit   Profile  

"my 4" angle grinder."

Heck, yes. He knows no fear...

Therealfrogman
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Feb 11th, 2018 07:32 AM   Edit   Profile  

That sounds pretty exciting. Or that would be "Remember when I tried to use a "_______" to shape a guitar body?

If you didn't hurt your back while doing it it does not count :0)

M Tracy
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Feb 11th, 2018 11:16 AM   Edit   Profile  

Looking good. You’re a brave man. I hope we don’t see you start any threads about learning slide. You do still have all of your fingers right?

Te 52

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Feb 11th, 2018 02:30 PM   Edit   Profile  

Very nice work so far.

I love the clarity that dyes give as opposed to stains. I'm impressed with how even you got the color, no blotching. Did you use any pre-treatment like a wash coat? Did you spray the dye or wipe it on?

Mick Reid
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Feb 11th, 2018 03:12 PM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks everyone for your support!
Yep, all digits and extremities still in place!

Te 52, I didn't use any pre-treatment, but in hindsight maybe should have.
There are two "light spots" on the side grain that I just just could not fix. [edit to add] The weird thing is they both run perpendicular to the grain. There is also a slight light blotch near the lower bridge area, but not *too* bad. Of course, the back is *perfect*!!
For some reason it photographed very evenly though.

I think I'll be pretty happy with it when I'm done. I'm finding that I "should have" (famous last words) done more grain filling, but I think I can work it out in the clear coating with some wet-sanding with my wipe-on poly.
Now I know why so many people bemoan grain filling!

This is definitely still a learning process for me...

(This message was last edited by Mick Reid at 06:19 PM, Feb 11th, 2018)

Te 52

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Feb 11th, 2018 05:38 PM   Edit   Profile  

Getting a perfectly even color on ash is not easy.

After years of using diluted varnish or shellac as a wash coat, with mixed success, I've had gratifying results on my last few projects using Charles Neil Water-Based Pre-Stain Conditioner Blotch Control. Don't know if it's available in Oz.

Downside is that it -- like all wash coats -- inhibits stain or dye absorption by partially sealing the wood, so you will get a lighter color than you would have achieved had it not been used. Probably not a good choice for really dark colors, but for lights/mediums, I am really liking it.

[Insert appropriate legalese about no commercial relationship or interest, etc., etc.]

(This message was last edited by Te 52 at 11:03 PM, Feb 11th, 2018)

Mick Reid
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Feb 18th, 2018 12:24 AM   Edit   Profile  

More progress today...

things are starting to

take shape

vomer
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Feb 18th, 2018 04:29 AM   Edit   Profile  

Beautiful!

Mick Reid
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American-made in Oz!!
Feb 20th, 2018 09:03 PM   Edit   Profile  

It's

getting there...

Therealfrogman
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Pulu si bagumba!
Feb 20th, 2018 09:12 PM   Edit   Profile  

Looks really good!

Pinetree
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NW Pennsylvania

Feb 21st, 2018 03:51 AM   Edit   Profile  

Nice work.



Mick Reid
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Feb 21st, 2018 04:34 AM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks guys. Probably be a couple of weeks before it's playable, but so far no *major* problems.

Just a couple of "learning experiences" :^)


1600
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Feb 21st, 2018 08:02 AM   Edit   Profile  

The body looks great Mick. I was a little concerned when I saw the raw body that the grain wouldn't pop but you did a great job of bringing it out.

Mick Reid
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Feb 21st, 2018 03:03 PM   Edit   Profile  

"I was a little concerned when I saw the raw body that the grain wouldn't pop but you did a great job of bringing it out."

Thanks 16. I used an ebony coloured grain filler prior to the dye. (both water based btw)

I did the grain filling twice, but in hindsight should have gone one more time. I still have some "texture" coming through in a few spot with the clear coat.
It's not as perfect as I had hoped, but I'm still quite happy with it for the most part.

Next build (see what I did there?) I will try some different techniques I think. This has been a good "learn as you go" project though.


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