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HeavyDuty
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Feb 4th, 2018 08:15 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

We have a bunch of “normal” (well, normalish) shooters here, posting a question like this on most gun forums will kick off jihad.

I’ve been considering a iron sighted 600m semiauto rifle for years. I used to have a DCM Garand, but the chambering was an oddball for me and the grip angle was painful for my wonky wrist. I do miss the Garand action, though and an M1A would bring me back to it.

SA is doing a version with a synthetic stock with a more upright wrist, I find these designs work much better for me. I would never scope it, and wouldn’t be shooting High Power competitions with it - just on paper at 100 plus casual gong ringing out to 600.

Anyone here have a Springfield M1A that can comment on how they are?

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Feb 4th, 2018 08:49 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I can't comment on that specific model, but years ago I bought a new manufacture "Garand" model from Springfield. It's marked "US Rifle M1, Cal 30", 30-06 with a regular wood stock. Standard Garand sights. I put a nice leather sling on it.

Mine has worked flawlessly from day one. No trouble at all.

I would think an "upgraded" version in 308 would be just fine. The two calibers have similar ballistics.

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Feb 4th, 2018 08:57 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

OK, so dug further into my safe and I have a Springfield M1A with a black fiberglass stock, regular sights, in 7.62 NATO (308). I don't recall the exact terminology when I bought it what it was called.

Anyway this rifle also had worked perfectly from the beginning, no issues.

My only comment on this one is since I only shoot at the range (no hunting) if I had it to do again I would have paid more and gotten a nice wood stock. The fiberglass stocks are very light and this tends to make the rifle a bit muzzle heavy.

My 2 cents.

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Feb 4th, 2018 09:18 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Since we can no longer buy ARs or AKs in this craphole, I've been looking at these rather than the AR-10 that I should have bought when I had the chance.

I've been leaning toward the standard wooden stock config the model you are considering looks pretty cool.

I'll be interested in what you decide.

HeavyDuty
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Feb 4th, 2018 10:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks, E - good info.

NSR, I prefer the looks of the wooden stocked versions too but there’s that pesky wrist issue. I think I’m going to do this, but want to do more research. Springfield is a very polarizing company, and you have to filter what you read on the web.

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Feb 4th, 2018 10:37 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

NSR, better get one soon. I predict an all out ban on semi-auto rifles in your area sometime soon.

However with what I read about bump stocks in your area, the State might confiscate all semi's without any compensation.

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Feb 4th, 2018 11:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

HD, I know the saga of SA that has the hardcore guys bent out of shape. I read what I could find on it and concluded that it wasn't enough to make me want to boycott the company.

K4, I know you are just busting my aggies on the semi autos, but the sad fact is I wouldn't be a bit surprised.

Regarding the bump stocks, I started a thread a few weeks ago and it got locked -- so I guess I can't talk about it.

I will say this, the effort has been a great success. The ban went into effect four days ago -- so far a total of four have been surrendered.

My son moved to New Hampshire last year and bought his first handgun. To celebrate, I bought him a big safe. He said -- Thanks Dad, but I'm never going to buy enough guns to fill this thing up.

I said -- Maybe, but I need a place to bring all mine when the effing commies finally take over in Mass.



HeavyDuty
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Feb 4th, 2018 12:21 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I need to research why there’s so much bad blood regarding SA. Here in IL they caught some bad publicity last year over a carveout they got in some proposed legislation, but I think it’s deeper and older than that.

If I were looking for a hard core competitive High Power rifle I’d probably look elsewhere, but for the casual shooting I’m talking about I think a SA would work fine. Plus, I’m only two hours from the factory if it needs warranty work.

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Feb 4th, 2018 12:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

SA moved a lot of production (all?) out of IL and the country. I know the XD line is made in Croatia, not sure of other products.

(This message was last edited by MJB at 02:57 PM, Feb 4th, 2018)

HeavyDuty
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Feb 4th, 2018 01:53 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I think the XDs were actually Croatian first under a different brand, and SA private labeled them. And they wouldn’t be the first to offshore production.

I usually don’t give most of the bitching and moaning you hear on the shooting forums much weight, some of those people would complain if you hung them with a new rope.

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Feb 4th, 2018 02:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

" would complain if you hung them with a new rope. "

I sure would, I'd want one old and frayed

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reverendrob
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Feb 5th, 2018 01:03 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If you want maximum accuracy and bang for the buck in a semi, get an AR10.

If you want a semi-M14, the Springfield works just fine out of the box most of the time - I only had occasional issues with them out of the few dozen we sold.

reverendrob
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Feb 5th, 2018 02:17 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

And yea, the XDs were always Croatian.

And some of the Springfield guns are built with Imbel receivers or parts - the former FN contractor in Brazil.

Imbel is my #1 choice for a lot of FN-pattern stuff or traditional stuff at import pricing!

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Feb 5th, 2018 02:39 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have one and love it. Mine is the Standard with a walnut stock and it has no upgrades except for a several coats of tung oil on the wood.

I've only fired a few hundred rounds through it, and the farthest target available at my local range is only 100 Meters. There have been no issues but it hasn't really been tested.

It's a beautiful wood and steel weapon. I thought it would satisfy my craving for a Garand, but I need one of those, too.


HeavyDuty
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Feb 5th, 2018 06:38 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Rob, I agree - if I was looking for maximum accuracy in a semiauto without spending $$$, I’d start building an AR10. That would actually be the logical choice for me since I’m already so invested in the AR system. But, this isn’t necessarily a logical kinda purchase I’m considering here. ;-)

I currently have a decent precision 7.62 (a Ruger RPR) and a MBR (an Imbel gear receiver-based FAL I built years ago.) This is to scratch an itch for a strictly iron sighted rifle for banging the gongs that has more legs than the FAL. It’ll only be put on paper at 100, everything further will be on steel. If it’s 2 MOA I’d be good, 1.5 or less ecstatic.

WireDog, I’d likely be looking for a second traditional wood stock if I buy one of these. It may not get shot much with it due to my wrist issues, but... What kind of accuracy are you seeing?

reverendrob
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Feb 5th, 2018 07:27 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If the FAL won't do 2MOA, have it tuned, and replace the barrel if necessary.

Built dozens and it's certainly not difficult to achieve with the platform!


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Feb 5th, 2018 08:05 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It’ll do slightly over MOA, but it’s not a satisfying rifle to use at distance. I built it as a carbine.

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Feb 5th, 2018 12:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

HD, I mainly was learning my way around adjusting my Battlesight Zero on a 25 M Zero paper target, followed by familiarizing with adjusting the elevation knob to hit plate-sized silhouettes at 100M. I wasn't really at the fine-tune level but I could nail plate-sized targets at 100M (the farthest distance at my range) all day, seated using a rest.

I cracked up my bike about that time, had a couple of surgeries, and that rifle has been in the safe ever since. This thread is rekindling my interest. Gotta find a range with more distant targets.

HeavyDuty
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Feb 5th, 2018 01:08 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Woohoo! I love being an enabler!

reverendrob
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Feb 6th, 2018 12:02 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ah, makes sense then.

I kept all my FALs regulation-length.

My carbines..are papered.

Just a couple of the HK51s (one with Gemtech HVT) and well, an Uzi.

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