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Therealfrogman
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Jan 31st, 2018 01:21 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I am going to buy an offset tele body from MJT and they have alder or swamp ash to choose from.

I am not one of those tone wood experts and i doubt what kind of wood it is will make any difference. The swamp ash is $15 more than the alder.

Which one would be easier to sand and prep for a wannabe luthier. If there is a difference you guys will tell me. Is alder lighter than swamp ash?

Thanks in advance! Included in this survey is a picture of my best effort to date and yes, the offset body will be shell pink :-)

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Jan 31st, 2018 01:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Swamp Ash needs to be grain filled if you want a smooth surface, Alder does not. If you're going with a solid color, you probably don't want any grain 'texture'. I've chosen Alder for some projects for this reason.

Alder and Ash look very different. If you're going with a transparent or translucent finish, you will need to consider how the grain looks visually - and meets your preference.

I personally don't buy in to any generalities about weight or tone attributed to wood species.

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Jan 31st, 2018 01:32 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

What he said...

I tend to go with Alder.

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Jan 31st, 2018 02:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I prefer ash for Tele's, just beecuz. That said my one standard Tele build is an alder body from Guitar Mill. If you're going to do the work and make it a solid color, then I would go with alder for the reasons stated by ra above. I have seen some of the lighter weight bodies being ash, particularly from MJT. Mark Jenny uses bodies built by Wildwood Mfg. I have 2; a 3 tone sunburst Strat in ash and custom built greenburst Strat in alder. Both bodies are under 4 lbs and good stuff, IMO.

Therealfrogman
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Jan 31st, 2018 02:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

This is very helpful and precisely what I needed to know.

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Jan 31st, 2018 04:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yep. Ash for when you want to see the grain. Alder for opaque colors.

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Jan 31st, 2018 05:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Therealfrogman, love that strat. I had a shell pink one but didn't get on with that particular guitar, loved the colour though. Really nice touch putting your granddaughter's name on it.

I have an alder USACG strat build underway and I've just re-shaped the forearm contour. I'm no woodworker and I've never done anything like this before, but it was very easy to work with and I'm very happy with the result.

I'll post before and after pics in a new thread.

Therealfrogman
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Feb 5th, 2018 02:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ordered my offset body, ordered a neck last night. Parted a tele and sold all that stuff in two days so just one more sale and I will be able to pay for everything without splainin stuff to the wife.

It will take a few weeks to get the body so it would be nice if I had all my parts when it comes. Pretty good chance I will :)

You guys got any advice on a solid color? One you favor over the rest? I am thinking either shell pink, sonic blue or even vintage blonde. Gonna have a mint guard.

Either reranch or buy an hvlp gun and get some lacquer from a paint store in town. Been wanting to try a real gun out. I wonder if the Harbor freight guns are good enough.

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Feb 6th, 2018 02:38 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"one more sale and I will be able to pay for everything without splainin stuff to the wife."

A few weeks ago I sold a guitar for £320 to pay for the last stage of my strat build. Last week, mrs v comes home, "the car's making a funny noise." Bill from the garage, £324. Sometimes I think the universe has a great sense of humour.

Therealfrogman, you can't go wrong with sonic blue or butterscotch blonde on a tele offset imho.

Therealfrogman
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Mar 29th, 2018 05:49 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Got the body from MJT today

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Therealfrogman
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Mar 29th, 2018 05:50 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I bought a AV hotrod bridge and had a PG made.

Here

Therealfrogman
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Mar 29th, 2018 05:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

And of course the neck I trimmed down.

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Mar 29th, 2018 05:55 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Nice!

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Mar 29th, 2018 06:57 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Cool! Can't wait to see it finished.

What's the neck? Is that got finish on it, or is that the timber colour?

What are you thinking for body finish?

So many questions...


Therealfrogman
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Mar 29th, 2018 07:50 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Mick, it's all rosewood and the body will most likely get shell pink reranch, just need to paint, got all the parts.

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Mar 30th, 2018 12:14 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You like that Shell Pink, eh? ;^)


Therealfrogman
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Mar 31st, 2018 11:34 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Mick, yeah but I have not ordered it yet...Maybe Fiesta Red. The PG is mint green so I have lots of options.

The nice thing is that this body is very smooth and I probably wont have to do any additional sanding.

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Mar 31st, 2018 04:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"The nice thing is that this body is very smooth and I probably wont have to do any additional sanding."

I presume you went with Alder then. Good choice.

Whilst I'm reasonably satisfied with the clear finish I just did on my Ash tele, I now know why people bemoan the grain-filling process...

Next build will likely be back to Alder.


Achase4u

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Mar 31st, 2018 08:44 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've been going ash as of late even for solid colors because I can not find any alder that isn't a brick anymore. I have heard tell of such difficulties in finding lighter alder supply lately.

But yes, ash takes much more prep work. And no matter how much you fill it and sand, the grain will always sink in enough to show through a solid color eventually. Unless you've got the crazy thick poly stuff.

Achase4u

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Mar 31st, 2018 08:53 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Also, consider Gracey's finished from Madisons music store. I found their shell pink to look a little more mellow and classic against the slightly more bubble gum reranch color. YMMV.

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