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Taildragger
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an acquired taste some may never acquire
Jan 31st, 2018 02:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

And so it goes: the many are punished preemptively for the sins of the few.

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Jan 31st, 2018 03:03 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I don't take pain meds much beyond simple aspirin.

I have had the experience of struggling to awaken my 19 year old completely health Son only to learn that he was not a deep sleeper. He was regularly putting himself into opiate induced sleep paralysis.

It was anything but "laughable".

Not an argument against those who need the relief. Just tossing in a first hand account of the other side of the coin.

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Jan 31st, 2018 03:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

One of my Son's is a flipping junkie. His drug of choice is meth, but if I allow him in my home I have to hide anything that can get him high.

Addiction is not pleasant, especially to those of us who love the addict. Making it harder for non addicts to get medicine should not be part of the conversation. It is not a Dr's responsibility to figure out who is or is not a junkie. He should not be held liable for someone who abuses the meds. The Government should never be in this.

I understand Dr's are Human and some will abuse the ability to prescribe drugs. Well punishing all Dr's for the few is not right. Same as punishing all people with pain because some will take enough to get high.

I wish pot worked, I'd move to a pot friendly State and be done with it.



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Jan 31st, 2018 03:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well said K4. So to hear of your son.

Pot can work. I tried it to relieve sciatica. It only works of you smoke yourself to a nonfunctional state. That only lasts for 1/2 hour or so then it's time to smoke more. For me anyway, not an option.

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Jan 31st, 2018 06:19 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Marijuana, federal crime.

What else do you need to know other than
states and cities that claim "sanctuary" also allow dope growing.. a federal crime. Seems to go hand in hand.

I have left over hard core drugs from my throat cancer in 2010-2011. Powerful stuff.
When I got over my treatment I was supposed to wean myself off the stuff over a 4 month period.. I did it in 11 days, much to the chagrin of my Oncologist. My logic was I needed them, then I didn't.

But when you do need them (legally) they should be available based on need not arbitrary restriction.

(This message was last edited by jefe46 at 08:52 AM, Feb 1st, 2018)

reverendrob
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Feb 1st, 2018 03:13 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It's a case of cutting off the legitimate needs of folks will not stop those who abuse the drugs or who enjoy the high.

Of all the significant pain sufferers I've encountered, the vast majority of us have used their drugs responsibly.

It really is like the gun "problem" - take them away from folks for the crimes of the few.

Taildragger
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Feb 1st, 2018 09:29 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"It really is like the gun 'problem' - take them away from folks for the crimes of the few."


Bingo.

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Feb 1st, 2018 09:55 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm reading the thread here and I really can't see where these pain meds are being taken away from those in need.

Am I missing something?

Hammond101
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Feb 1st, 2018 10:02 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Am I missing something?"

The strength of the dosage and the frequency of each dose is being reduced by the medical community. Doc are afraid of possible legal actions. This is a general statement however this is where it has been going for many years.

Medical care is no longer just between you and your doctor.

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Feb 1st, 2018 11:02 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Anyone think that Immodium is handy when you have the runs? Better stockpile a bit because, as usual, a very tiny number of addicts have been taking huge amounts of the stuff, and that somehow causes health problems, including death if you take enough.So, there is now a push to make it prescription only and millions of people who bought a package once a year or so will be denied easy relief because a handful of addicts found a new legal high. This is the truth of regulators; they never stop finding new things to regulate.

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Feb 1st, 2018 12:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Am I missing something?"

Being treated like a flipping criminal junkie every time you see a Dr.

My primary Dr who I've been seeing for 20 years stopped treating my pain. I now have to go to a "pain clinic" I have to piss in a cup every three months. If I don't have the prescribed drugs in my system at the prescribed doses, or have any other drugs I did not disclose I get terminated.

The Dr can no longer write a multi month prescription. I have to go to the dr office every month to pick up a paper copy.

All due to the blaking politicians and clueless public.

My dr said the reporting requirements for treating chronic pain make it too cumbersome to continue. That and if a chronic pain patient pisses hot for any other drug the Dr can be arrested. So if someone smokes weed, the Dr can go to jail. This is a KY law. It may or may not be the same elsewhere.

With all the internet based medical records, I wonder when the BATFE will decide people taking pain meds can no longer own firearms

K4
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Feb 1st, 2018 12:25 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Seriously, it is easier to get Heroin than to get legal pain meds.

reverendrob
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Feb 2nd, 2018 06:44 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It's also now a "Must dance monthly" instead of quarterly etc and must pick up paper prescription.

The junkies and resellers will show up every DAY if you made them.

It's just a serious hoop for those who can't drive because of illness, disability, or...pain.

You know, the folks who NEED the stuff the most.

Think of it this way..."You don't NEED more than ten rounds" becomes "you only get ten at a time, ever" then "You only get ten per month..." then...


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Feb 2nd, 2018 09:45 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It was a good thing when I could get a prescription for 90 days. Then it was reduced to 30 days and now it's 28 days.

With chronic pain all I'm trying to do is control the pains. I'm never able to get rid of pain completely unless I take more than I should. You do have to discipline yourself and stay within the limits. Having the doctor sign off on my prescription every 4 weeks is a nuisance. The doctors know who the abusers are.

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Feb 8th, 2018 03:48 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It’s probably something a person in high position need not say. It really doesn’t do anything for anyone.

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Feb 8th, 2018 06:31 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I fell off of some scaffolding once and landed right on the corner of a framed in 2"x12" deck . Every breath I took felt like someone was chopping through my ribs with a hatchet. I ended up with two ribs broken right next to my backbone along with extensive soft connective tissue damage. A co worker took me to the Emergency Rm where they gave me a shot (Morphine?) and then a X ray. I got a script for 150 pills (Demerol) and I ended up using them all, that injury still plagues me sometimes to this day. Unnecessary suffering doesn't make any sense to me. I understand the goal is to be made whole again but sometimes just being somewhat functional is the best your ever going to get, if it involves a script, so be it.

reverendrob
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Feb 9th, 2018 03:42 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Trimmed thread for politics. No go!

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