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Colombo

Spain

One, two, three, faw!
Jan 20th, 2018 12:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

After a long time of inactivity, I've started playing again and, what's more, playing outside my home, which means I'm starting to think more about possible mishaps that my guitars might suffer.

I've read on the internet that there are different types of security locks for my guitar straps. But I haven't been able to figure out whether all are good for all guitars, or which ones would be the best ones for mine.

I have got a Squier Strat (indefinite model, since it doesn't fit any of the specifications for the Squier models I cheked when I bought it) and a DeArmond T-400 with very different strap buttons. I've also got an acoustic Epiphone, but I think it would use the same locks as the DeArmond.

What would you recommend? I'd rather not change the strap buttons of the guitars, if possible. I've seen Fender has some locks that look like regular washers, but I don't really know whether those are safe. I don't leap and bound around with the guitars, but I'd rather buy something which would do its job in any situation.

Would it be better to but straps with their own locks?

Thanks for your help!

P.S. Sorry! I made a mistake with the topic title. Would any mod please change it to "Security locks for straps"?

(This message was last edited by Colombo at 02:30 PM, Jan 20th, 2018)

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Jan 20th, 2018 01:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have Dunlops on one of my 335s . On my other I just have some rubber washers that seem to work good.

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Jan 20th, 2018 02:20 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"P.S. Sorry! I made a mistake with the topic title."

Heck no, welcome, Colombo. I wish I had a thread called vomer. Now everyone's going to want a thread named after them :-).

I just use the rubber washers from the tops of Grolsch bottles over the standard strap buttons. But I don't jump around.

Mick Reid
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Australia

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Jan 20th, 2018 02:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm another washer user.
However I will specify that the ones I use are food grade silicone, not neoprene like use used in plumbing.

I bought mine from a home-brew shop for 20 cents apiece. They are exactly the same as the ones Fender sells for $5 each! (sans colour and logo)

I'll also add that I have a strap attached to every one of my guitars, so I'm not removing/replacing a strap every time I change guitars.

If you're a "one strap guy", washers won't be practical for you for quick change overs.

I've never had one pop off, but I too am not a "leaper". My leaping days are well & truly behind me :^)


Colombo

Spain

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Jan 21st, 2018 07:26 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hello!

Thanks all three of you for your kind help! Three answers, three washer users. I think I'll go for those, then. Luckily, I'm not, as Mick put it, a "one strap guy". I have a strap, a cable, a capo, a tuning fork and some plectrums for each of my guitars (I like the idea of just picking the case knowing I'll have everything I need). Besides, I thought that if I removed the strap every time I play the guitar, the buttonholes would soon stretch and become very unsafe, so that's something I discarded from the very beginning.

I haven't seen those bottle seals for ages. I only remember seeing them in 1-litre soda water bottles, and that was over 35 years ago. After that, it's been either plastic bottles, or bottles with metal caps. I'll have to go to a plumbing shop. What measurements should I ask for? I suppose the inner hole must be big enough for the thin part of the strap button, but smaller than the wide part of the strap button. Is that all I need to know when buying them? Is their thickness important, depending on the gap between the strap and the wide part of the button, or do the washers get compressed and adapt to any gap? Should I look for a specific material, silicone or neoprene?

Thanks once again!

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Jan 21st, 2018 07:31 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I think the correct size in inches is 5/16ths in the US.

SonicBlue

Sunbury-on-Thames

Jan 21st, 2018 07:35 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Over here in Europeland we have a beer/lager called Grolsch. The bottle has an over-centre wire lever arrangement to hold the cap, its sealing washer is the perfect fit and strength for guitar straps.

I won't say how much research went into checking this.

edited to add link for Amazon (uk) washers.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Grolsch-Spare-Washers-Swing-Bottles/dp/B0026WZB7W

Grolsch top

(This message was last edited by SonicBlue at 09:39 AM, Jan 21st, 2018)

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Jan 21st, 2018 07:55 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The Grolsch washer - the greatest straplock never invented. :-)

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Jan 21st, 2018 08:41 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

^^^^ I agree . I wish I would have tried them before adding dunlops to my cherry 335 . It would have saved me some drilling at the neck heel.

Colombo

Spain

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Jan 21st, 2018 10:45 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've been searching the internet for those Grolsch bottles, and they don't seem to be easy to find here in Spain. I had never heard of that brand.

Anyway, even if I found them, I'm not too fond of beer (or of anything with alcohol - it disagrees so much with me that I think I must have some sort of allergy or intolerance). I have a Guinness now and then, mind!

What I'll do -since that Amazon seller doesn't deliver to Spain- is send that Amazon link to a friend of mine who lives in Cambridge, England. I hope he doesn't mind having the washers sent to his home, where I can fetch them when I visit him next month.

Thanks for all the info and help!



Mick Reid
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Australia

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Jan 21st, 2018 06:55 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Colombo, search locally for a home brew shop.
Surely folks in Spain brew their own beer, don't they?

like this one

Mick Reid
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Australia

American-made in Oz!!
Jan 21st, 2018 06:56 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

And there's always

ebay

littleuch
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Jan 21st, 2018 07:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've used the Grolsch bottle gaskets (I used to homebrew beer), but...

Dunlop straplocks are what, $12? Schaller's are like $15. Both work very well. I had a preference for Dunlop's at one time, especially on my Fender's, but did my most recent Strat build with Schaller's and like them very much.

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Jan 22nd, 2018 05:33 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I no longer use strap locks, after having trouble with the ones on Fender American Dlx Strats failing and the strap button pulling out of the wood and not having a good experience with the plastic washer type version.

At this point in my career, I don't jump around on stage so I'm not expecting a problem.

Colombo

Spain

One, two, three, faw!
Jan 22nd, 2018 09:35 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've been searching for local home brewers, and I've found quite a few, but none of them uses that sort of flip top bottles. They're all like this:

http://static.paladea.me/files/styles/producto_listado/public/producto/cerveza-sanfrutos/pack-degustacion-cervezas-san-frutos-33cl-8-cada-tipo.jpg

As I said, I haven't seen the flip top bottles for some 35 years, and back then, I only remember them for soda or lemonade. In fact, I didn't suspect they were still common anywhere else!

I think I'll go for that Amazon UK link where they're selling twelve washers for £2.99. It's a very convenient number for me, and my friend has told me he can order them for me, and I'll pick them next month. They're cheap, too, and from what you've said I'll think they'll provide the extra safety a rather static player like me will need.

Thanks guys! You're the best!

(This message was last edited by Colombo at 11:36 AM, Jan 22nd, 2018)

Tony F

Long Island, NY

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Jan 22nd, 2018 03:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

In my old age I loike locking straps more than strap locks. Planet Waves makes a fine locking strap for around $15.

VanGoghsEar

USA

Jan 23rd, 2018 07:52 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I discovered a locking strap called "Lock-it". They are constructed out of normal strap materials, nylon with leather ends, but the leather ends have a button-slide that opens the lock and it springs shut. Super easy to use or change from guitar to guitar.

Lock-it Straps

Warren Pederson

Canada

Jan 24th, 2018 12:41 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Grolsch, with benefits

Colombo

Spain

One, two, three, faw!
Feb 19th, 2018 03:32 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I thought I'd pop back just to let you know that I've just returned from the UK with the Grolsch washers my friend ordered there, and they're just what I was looking for. I'm very pleased with them, and I think they're great value for money.

Thanks everyone!


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Feb 19th, 2018 08:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Late to the party, but when I was a kid in Spain just about every bar had something they called Gaseosa, sort of like seltzer or club soda. You could buy the bottle, and then get it refilled very cheaply at just about any place you might wander to in your travels. the bottles had the same over center toggle action action as Grolsh, with the same sort of washer.

May not still exist in this disposable new age, because it was over 50 years ago!!!

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