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windmill
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Jan 15th, 2018 07:13 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Just thinking out loud

Playing bass on a mid tempo tune, to make a sense of movement

Could I play the C7 arpeggio over the first 2 bars and then 1 bar of C Dim arpeggio and then another bar of the C7 arpeggio.

1.Does this make musically sense ?

2.Would anyone notice anyway ?

:)

(This message was last edited by windmill at 09:15 PM, Jan 15th, 2018)

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Jan 15th, 2018 07:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It depends on what the melody is doing and what chords the chordal instruments are playing.

Arpeggiating a Cdim chord when everyone else is playing a C major chord would give some hellacious clashes, like an Eb against an E and a Gb against a G. Yeah, people would notice.

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Jan 15th, 2018 09:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Analyze the melody for that four-bar passage and then develop an ascending or descending pattern (depending on where the tune is going) using those notes. It may not be a Cmaj chord.

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Jan 16th, 2018 08:06 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My first question: what is the kick drum doing?

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Jan 16th, 2018 08:33 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm with te52. That would sound really bad if the guitars/keys stay on C7.

I don't have any good suggestions, not knowing the song of the feel.

My best suggestion would be to continue to arpeggio on the 3rd and 4th measures, but come down instead of up or make some jumps within the arpeggio. On the last 2 beats, move toward the next chord.


windmill
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Jan 16th, 2018 03:50 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I am working from a chord chart so don't know what the melody would be doing at this point.

I am trying work up something that would create some underlying movement during the 4 bars.

As an alternative would playing beyond the C7 arp to the 9,#9,11 or #11/b5 be a better idea ?

thanks for the replies

:)

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Jan 16th, 2018 04:44 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Windmill, are you normally a guitar player vs a bass player?

This is a bass line. Don't try to get too fancy. Your #1 job is to outline the foundation of the chord structure and signal chord changes. Getting too far into chord extensions will start sounding strange. Leave the fancy chord extensions to the other instruments. My recommendation would be to stay away from anything beyond a 7th, unless it is a quick passing tone, especially if the other instruments aren't aware of the any altered notes you might use.

4 bars is not very long and almost too short to get too boring. Try a bass pattern that spans 2 bars or even 4.

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Jan 16th, 2018 07:19 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Windmill, While I was looking for something else, I ran across this youtube video on creating bass lines. I had not heard of Danny "Mo" Morris before, but he is a Berklee instructor. Lots of good info in just this one video, with stuff for both beginners and advanced players. He has other videos, some in connection with Scott's Bass Lessons.

His fingering is a little hard to follow for me. Sometimes he hops around the fingerboard keeping the the same fingering shape because he does a lot of left-hand muting for a real thumpy sound.

He has a lot of good info and a good presentation.

Danny "Mo" Morris - creating bass lines

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Jan 17th, 2018 04:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks Maestro for the thoughts and the link to the video.

I'll try extending the C7 arp into the next octave and just add a 6th or 2nd here and there.

:)

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Jan 24th, 2018 02:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Danny Mo is a helluva teacher.

Use altered tensions very carefully, usually just as passing tones. But unless you're playing something pretty out there, I'd avoid them.

(This message was last edited by gdw3 at 12:27 PM, Jan 25th, 2018)

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