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greg1948
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Tbird Greg
Jan 14th, 2018 07:20 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

After swearing that I'd never join a band again, I just committed to starting one with a couple of other geezers. So we'll work on a bunch of songs, get them fairly tight and go looking to play out. If we get to that point, we might get a gig or two making very little money (but money's not the real goal is it?). After the initial rush of playing out, nobody will want to go back to just practicing. When follow up gigs don't happen soon enough (there's lots of competition, even for low-end gigs), the trouble starts. The inevitable personality clashes, the blame game, etc. What once was fun is now a PITA. Then the exodus begins.

Sounds like I'm pretty cynical, and I suppose that's true. It's just a pattern I've seen over the years. The only exception was the band I started up north where we stated at the outset that it was a "hobby" band and we were not looking to play out. After 7 years with the group, I moved to Florida, but that band is still getting together weekly for the fun of it.

Down here in Vero Beach, most everybody wants to "go out and make some money." Personally, I think that's the wrong way to about it, but I'm in a minority. I should "retire" but I love the positive aspects of being in a band. So, as I said, here we go again!

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Jan 14th, 2018 09:37 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Down here in Vero Beach, most everybody wants to go out and make some money."

Sounds to me like an attitude someone might have who's never played in a band. Or perhaps they have played in a band, but the last time was around 1985.

The only way to make any money playing these days is if you're doing studio work, teaching, or playing a gig every night.

I have no desire to gig again. I like the routine of getting together with pals and playing a few times a month. My approach there is to keep bringing in new stuff.

I'm not going to play Louie Louie a hundred times in a row. That would defeat the purpose, because ultimately it would come out better than the original recording :o)

A lot of bands never get off the ground because of differing opinions on the direction the band should go. Finding a group of like-minded, *reasonable* people is rare indeed. If you compromise a bit too much, it becomes un-fun pretty fast.

Good luck and have fun!

Laker

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but never forget their names
Jan 14th, 2018 06:07 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

“ I have no desire to gig again. I like the routine of getting together with pals and playing a few times a month. My approach there is to keep bringing in new stuff.”

My answer to this has been to organize a group of good friends/musicians that do a weekly open mic at a local club. We play music we call “off the cuff” and have a fun time doing what we do. We have had many really good players sit in and that adds to the enjoyment of playing music, doing what we truly enjoy doing. After 55+ years of being a professional musician I wouldn’t exchange that stage time for anything.

5Strats
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GospelBilly!
Jan 15th, 2018 05:46 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Join or put together a band that plays original music. I promise you that you won't get too many gigs to handle, unless you're both talented and lucky. (:oD

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Jan 15th, 2018 02:03 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

After a mega burnout on gigging I quit with (virtually) no remorse. Some time afterward a friend/fellow guitarist who I consider a monster talent reeled me into a casual basement thing. 4 like minded guys, all within a stone's throw, no ambition to do anything but make music a bowling night out for the boys once a week. It was a riot, but we got pretty good and the sentiment starting to rise with some. Then came the dreaded words; "We should get some gigs". We did, and their infrequency as well as the types of gigs were mostly fun. But then discussion ventured into doing obligatory material for the masses. My heart wasn't in it, and I hate being the anchor.

It was fun while it lasted. If I'm going to play for a bunch of drunks I rather it be people I know, and in the proverbial basement doing stuff I like.

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GospelBilly!
Jan 15th, 2018 03:19 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

littleuch - I think you've got major league talent as a songwriter and singer. However, I definitely understand why you'd opt out of the "music business" which is like accepting beatings for a living most of the time.

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Jan 15th, 2018 03:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Our Classic Oldies band lasted from 1985 through 2012, 27 years. It was never about the money (although we never got paid less than $200/person and usually two or three times that).

At 72, I recently had an offer to do more of the same with another band starting up.

I passed.

For me my twice/wk Open Mic get togethers are just about perfect. Great friends, I only do solo acoustic stuff, and zero hassles.

Good luck with your new venture. You never know...

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Jan 15th, 2018 03:35 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks 5. I totally respect musicians who have the tenacity to keep at it, year after year. A close friend/old bandmate just had a "record release" event, pics taken by Mick Rock, a publicist, etc. Just turned 59. My bro in law gigs regularly with 2 bands at 60 and loves it.

I take no pride in being a "quitter". I DO dig not having the distraction of band dynamics, rejection, etc. while doing something I love.

Rock on brothers.

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Yeah, that must've been some other body
Jan 16th, 2018 08:18 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I’ve been fortunate to find a group of like-minded individuals. 3 of 5 original members are still here after 10 years. We enjoy our regular sessions but we still like to get in front of an audience occasionally, even though we know that we aren't paid enough to justify the time and effort. It doesn’t take a lot to remind us that we’re getting old and that loading, unloading, setting up, tearing down, and loading out can take as much time as playing the gig, but is a lot less fun and sometimes hurts.

(This message was last edited by Rick Knight at 12:29 PM, Jan 16th, 2018)

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GospelBilly!
Jan 16th, 2018 10:06 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've joined a 2nd band that will begin rehearsals next month. Another all original music band, but I WILL NOT BE the leader, lead singer, the only songwriter or the gig getter.

I'm doubling down on the madness because I'm too stupid to stop or I need my self esteem lowered more or . . ., etc. (:oD

Have Crippling Self Doubt, will travel!

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Life makes a man tired.
Jan 16th, 2018 11:10 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I thought this was a Whitesnake thread.

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Jan 16th, 2018 03:37 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I love playing, I like getting out once in a while too. The guys I play with, a guitar and Mandolin, are all about the music, it’s perfect. They have no objection to getting out once in a while. The best fun is playing friends parties. Did a couple gigs at a bar, a buddy owned, and all decided it ain’t for us.

We chose to play tunes that we really like. The mandolin guy brought in a song that I really, really didn’t like “I’m Your Puppet” naw, tried, couldn’t do it, thier are great love songs, like Fever, we do it Ray Charles style, he’s kind of a local boy “o)

I don’t bring many tunes, I’ve always believed it was up to the singers to decide what they could cover, these guys are willing to give it a shot. I’m usually bringing in tunes like “She’s Not There” , “St. James Infirmary” ‘Time is Tight”. Fun stuff to play. We got about 50 maybe 60 tunes like these. We get together once a week or so.

greg1948
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Jan 19th, 2018 05:42 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well, this one went south quicker than usual. Had my doubts from the git-go, as you may have noticed from the original post. Radical difference in personalities between me and the band leader.

Not that big a loss to me, as I have regular sessions with a couple different acoustic groups as well as occasional gigs with a singer/guitar player. But I still miss the fun of a full band with a great rhythm section and making some loud rock-and-roll.

(This message was last edited by greg1948 at 07:43 AM, Jan 19th, 2018)

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Mar 29th, 2018 05:14 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a Band-In-A-Box thing going on. I have a groups of guys I have been playing with for years and one will say I got a friend who wants to hire a band. We get together weekly for about 6 sessions to prep for the gig- play it (and we do well) and disband till the next one.

We all dont wanna commit to a gig situation but the 2-3 gigs a year are enough to satisfy the playing out Jones.

gdw3

LA-la-land, CA

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Mar 29th, 2018 11:59 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sorry it didn't work out. But as you said, you didn't have high hopes from the beginning. It's tough to do in L.A. Few can afford a house here, so no one has a place to rehearse. So if you're paying for rehearsal space, everybody wants to make that money back. It's understandable, but hard to get together for fun and maybe occasional gigs. Personally, I've never been interested in playing in cover bands, which is kinda what you have to do if you want to make money but stay in town and off the road.

I've recently been getting into playing the occasional rock musical, which is a lot of fun, but not for the faint of heart or casual player. It's a different vibe from playing straight music gigs. Everyone is so professional and committed, but these actor types are crazy! So that's fun. But yeah, those gigs are few and far between as well. Maybe 2 a year at most.

I miss my 2 bedroom duplex in Austin! It was on a cul de sac, with woods behind it. No noise issues, and I could keep the equipment permanently set up for practice or whenever the mood stuck us. Those were the days!

(This message was last edited by gdw3 at 02:02 PM, Mar 29th, 2018)

wborys
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Robbinsville, NJ

what do you mean the bass is too loud?
Mar 29th, 2018 01:17 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

MY once a year bass player gig as a weekend substitute worked out great; had some fun, got into the groove early on, and came home 2:30 AM
with $75 of wine money in my pocket.
AND I got to play 'Into the Mystic' with a
decent band for the first time ever.

I did find out:

1. I'm the fourth bass player to play with them
in 6 months

2. The drummer was excruciatingly loud, and had
friends bring him drinks every 3 songs.
Strangely enough, each song sped up by 20 BPS
before it ended. Otherwise, he played some
great rock drums.

3. The sax player walks out in the middle of
'Tequila'. (No one asked for a bass solo)
He did come back, but said he'd never play
again with the drummer.

4. My buddy, the leader, has never fired anyone.
Instead, everyone quits, and regroups under
a new name, without the shunned player.

5. All night I kept wondering if somewhere
outside the bar, there was a disgruntled
ex-bandmate, waiting to go postal (he's a
USPS employee).

Wow, can't wait till next year when I do it again. Otherwise, its dinner and friends (or movies) with wifey every Friday and Saturday.
Life is too short.

oldFartBassPlayer Walt

(This message was last edited by wborys at 03:19 PM, Mar 29th, 2018)

Cal-Woody

USA/California

Why do I keep fixing things that work?
Mar 29th, 2018 03:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've been blessed with the fellas that I jam with!
The lead guitarist has been a personal friend with whom I've played music with for years and when I got invited to try out for my current band, I told the other guys that I want to bring him with me.
Long story short, we hit it off with the other guys and are still gigging almost 2 years later.
We are about the same age and have like interests and keep evolving which makes it fun and challenging. So, we have developed a following and are asked often to play different venues and have opened up for quite a few well known artists and am still excited to play.
This is how I had hoped it would always be and am grateful that it has.

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