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Mick Reid
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Jan 12th, 2018 09:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You *are* relentless!!!






Get out of my head!!!!






;^)

Therealfrogman
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Pulu si bagumba!
Jan 13th, 2018 10:20 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

click click... this is bravo one, over.. go ahead bravo 1....still no guts in which to speak of, over.... copy that bravo one....confirm this bird aint flyin, over. confirmed, bravo 1 out.

Mick, yer an awesome feller, only making myself giggle. That guitar only motivates me to copy that on my hardtail. It is either surf green or one of the blue colors, maybe daphne. Never been sure and colors seem much different on screen.

I will take a pic later and share it. Honestly forgot all about that strat.

Therealfrogman
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Jan 13th, 2018 11:09 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Mick, were there any problems with getting the bridge pup to fit? Does yours have s/s/s or h/s/h routing?

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Bopper
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Jan 13th, 2018 12:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"so it's travelling in the same angle as the control knobs"

Mick - that reminds me: what's the switch orientation on the new Duo-Sonic you got a while ago?

I just got a D-S HS, and the switch is pretty much how you want it on this one ala Strat). I recall that they were at a right angle to the neck (ala LPs) on the 90s RIs, and I'm wondering if mine is out of whack.

Mick Reid
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Jan 13th, 2018 04:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Mick, were there any problems with getting the bridge pup to fit? Does yours have s/s/s or h/s/h routing?"

The factory routing is HB (neck)+ Swimming Pool (middle, bridge). I'll see if I can find a pic of the routing in my library.

Due to the differences in bridge design & body routing, the Hybrid bridge pickup sits slightly further forward toward the neck than a tele.
Because of the bridge differences, the most accurate way to measure it is back from the nut.

From nut to centre of E6 pole piece:
Tele = 615 mm (24-3/16")
Strato Tele = 605 mm (23-13/16")

How much 10mm effects the tone, I'll leave up to the lab-coated boffins! But my ears will tell you it sounds GREAT!


Mick Reid
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Jan 13th, 2018 04:25 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"...what's the switch orientation on the new Duo-Sonic you got a while ago?"

Bopper, from memory (for what that's worth :^) I think the switch was indeed "up & down".
I *do* recall that one of the first things I did to it was rotate the switch orientation. I went parallel to neck with that one because of its location on the "horn".

Easy to do (and can be done without completely removing the pickguard and strings).

Just loosen the retainer nut; remove pickguard screws; lift up the guard; rotate switch to where you want it & tighten the retainer nut whilst holding the switch from the underside; replace & tighten all the p/g screws - done!

Note: If you have a guitar multi wrench, great. If not, you can use a good pair of pliers, sideways, if that makes sense. I prefer needle nose for this, but I have a multi wrench now (thanks Peegoo!) Just be careful not to slip and bugger up the splines on the retainer nut.

Let me know if I've not addressed your question properly.

(This message was last edited by Mick Reid at 06:37 PM, Jan 13th, 2018)

Bopper
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Jan 14th, 2018 09:25 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That's exactly it, Mick - thanks.

Mick Reid
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Jan 14th, 2018 03:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

No worries Bopper.

I'll add that the body routing on those are generous enough that you can rotate it anyway you like without being concerned about it shorting against the cavity wall.

Since you'll be presumably rotating it only 45-90 degrees, you shouldn't have an issue with twisting up the wires, but it's good to be mindful of it while you're doing it.


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Jan 15th, 2018 07:42 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Mick, you've become quite a tech. Impressive stuff, brother!

Bopper
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Jan 15th, 2018 07:53 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Mick - good to know.
What it really *needs* is a shot of contact cleaner.

Mick Reid
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Jan 15th, 2018 04:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Mick, you've become quite a tech. Impressive stuff, brother!"

"Tech" is being generous, but thanks Peegoo!
(I learnt from the best here)

Bopper,

If the contact cleaner doesn't improve the switch performance (be sure it's *just* a cleaner and not a cleaner/lubricant) it may require a tiny bit of extra work. (there can be microscopic corrosion on the contacts that need a little extra push to remove it)
Again, very easy to do but it may or may not require removing the strings & pickguard. You'll have to try it and see.

Get a sheet of 1500 wet/dry sandpaper and cut a strip 1/4" x 2". Switch the lever to neck or bridge position so you can see the gap in the opposing contact points.
Place one end of the strip between the two open points then move the lever to close the contacts on the strip.
Pull the strip through the contacts.
You don't need to go crazy back & forth "sanding".
Just one direction, one pull (maybe two). It doesn't take much.

Repeat the process so the abrasive side of the paper has "rubbed" each side of the pair of contacts on each "side" of the switch.

I use this approach because it eliminates the risk of deforming or springing the metal contacts.

*Occasionally* the metal contacts need adjusting but that's another "lesson" :^)

Contact cleaner may very well fix it straight away, thus rendering the past 10 minutes of my time binary space junk...

Let us know how you go.

(This message was last edited by Mick Reid at 06:24 PM, Jan 15th, 2018)

Bopper
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Jan 16th, 2018 07:48 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks, I think. ;^D
I'll go with a spray first. I've got some 2000 grit paper, which I suppose would be a little gentler, if need be.

A brand new guitar shouldn't need any thing, but stuff happens...

Mick Reid
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Jan 16th, 2018 04:22 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"A brand new guitar shouldn't need any thing, but stuff happens..."

True. From my experience, those toggle style switches seem to be more prone to problems than blade/lever switches.

Sometimes all the toggles need is a good back & forth a few times and they'll come good.

I have a theory (but *only* a theory) that storing the switch in the middle position (both contacts closed) may prevent "gremlins" from getting in between the contact points and minimise problems.

I doubt I could remember to stow the switch in that position even half of the time though.


Cal-Woody

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Jan 16th, 2018 06:59 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Remember to always clean up the cavity from polishing dust. That is the usual culprit when they start to have issues.
Have had many instruments that had polishing compound in the cavities in my instruments and have caused premature failure to the switches and potentiometers.
I have used some clean printing paper between the contacts on my typical 3 way switch and placed it between the contacts and pull it through to clean up the contacts. ALA Peegoo method, and this worked well. Ultra fine sandpaper can work also, but a sheet of paper works nicely as well!
Did I mention Peegoo's name? Geez, that guy's everywhere!!!
Maybe he should change his handle to: Kilroy!
You know he was there at one time or another! Lol

Bopper
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Jan 17th, 2018 08:06 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Mick - I gave it a bit of the sandpaper, and it works fine now. 8^D

Cal - I was thinking it might be polishing compound or something like that. Of course, I didn't think to clean the cavity while I was in there...

Mick Reid
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Jan 17th, 2018 03:18 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"...I gave it a bit of the sandpaper, and it works fine now."

Good stuff!

SonicBlue

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Jan 20th, 2018 04:42 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Lovely looking guitar you have there. Does the colour have a name or number?

Mick Reid
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Jan 21st, 2018 12:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Does the colour have a name or number?"

Thanks Sonic. Funny you should ask...

It's Surf Green, but it was literally mix by eye. No paint code. So it's very much a one-of-a-kind.

I got the paint from a local guy in Brisbane that sells 2-pac lacquer in spray cans (he fills the cans himself).

Let me say that this guy has been inhaling paint fumes for about 40 years and was absolutely mad as cut snake. He was smoking cigarettes while mixing up the paint in a shop that is chalk full of solvents and paint and very combustible goodies.

After I pointed to a paint chip in one of his books, it went something like this:

Paint Guy: (cigarette hanging from lip, mixing) "...A little of this, a little of that..."

Me: "Aren't you going use the paint code?"

Paint Guy: "Nuh... Don't need it."

Me: "Well how are you going to..." (he cut me off)

Paint Guy: "Nuh... Don't need it."
(still mixing & smoking)

Me: (silent/bewildered)

Paint guy: "Whadya reckon? (showing me a splooge of paint on some paper) Is that what ya want?"

Me: "Maybe a little lighter green?"

Paint Guy: "OK... lighter..." (mix mix mix, smoke smoke smoke)

Meanwhile he's getting a 2 inch head of ash on his cig that I'm waiting to fall into the eff-ing. paint.

He adds an unmeasured amount of yellow or something and mix mix mix...

Paint Guy: (another splooge) "Howzat???"

Me: "Yeah, that works."

Paint Guy: "That'll be 40 bucks plus GST."

I drove out of there repeatedly saying "Wow" and shaking my head... what a trip!

(This message was last edited by Mick Reid at 02:15 AM, Jan 21st, 2018)

SonicBlue

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Jan 21st, 2018 06:33 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I love stories like that :-)

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Jan 22nd, 2018 08:00 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I like it.

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