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Guitar Fool
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Dec 30th, 2017 02:08 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have them on one of my tele's and changing strings is a piece of cake...and the guitar stays in tune as well as any of my others..

is there a disadvantage or down side to them?...because if there is I haven't experienced it yet....I wish the rest of my tele's had them..

Pinetree
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Dec 30th, 2017 02:18 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I like them, but once you've tried locking tuners they pale in comparison.




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Dec 30th, 2017 02:19 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Good tuners are good tuners, no matter the style.

I’ve got ‘em on the Strat I built.

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Dec 30th, 2017 04:18 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Love 'em. I've installed 'em on plenty of my builds.

If they work great, they work great. I like lockers too, but have no real preference.

I don't change tuners unless they're unreliable, they come apart, or they're otherwise aggrieved with inherent hinkiness, i.e., Gibson robotuners.

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Dec 30th, 2017 04:33 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I like them and they never disappoint. Edited to add that I just bought a set of Hipshot open back locking and staggered tuners and I love the look of them and they seem to work fine. They come with universal plate that when used you do not need to drill any holes which is cool.

The neck I put them in has 10mm holes and the fit nice and snug. I do not care much for string trees either so them being staggered alleviates the need for them.

(This message was last edited by Therealfrogman at 06:47 PM, Dec 30th, 2017)

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Dec 30th, 2017 05:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

At first I had trouble getting the high e and B to wind without popping out. But I learned how to get some tension on it and get it done.

Also once I had the high 'e' pop out right before a gig. Getting it back in the tuner with it all coiled up while I was in a panic was a bit of a challenge.

But it worked out and I soldiered on. Other than that I'm good with them.





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Dec 30th, 2017 05:26 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have them on my Baja Tele and love them. Never had a problem with them.

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Dec 30th, 2017 06:18 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I think locking tuners are the best but vintage kluson style come second.

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Dec 30th, 2017 08:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

no experience with locking tuners...sounds like an excellent idea though....

all things considered I'm happy with what I have.......however my initial opinion of the vintage type was they seemed to feel cheap when winding them...for lack of a better word.....Had em on my Gibson as well...

but they work great and have been very reliable



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Dec 30th, 2017 10:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've had and like both. (modern, vintage - did have one guitar with locking, but don't really have strong opinion on them)

If I'm doing a brand new build, I would probably order vintage. If I have modern style already on the guitar and they are working/performing fine, I'd most likely leave them.

One advantage to the vintage is, if you're doing a job that requires taking the pickguard on & off (and hence the strings too) the strings cope with going on & off the posts better. (and easier too)

That's all I got ...


reverendrob
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Dec 31st, 2017 01:46 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have "vintage tuners" that autotune.

They're the only vintage-style tuners I have ever liked, because, well, the motor gives a third hand.

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Dec 31st, 2017 06:37 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The plastic tulip-tips on the tuners of my '59 Gibson 345 deteriorated from age resulting one breaking off. So, for me, a "con" would be deterioration of the materials originally used.

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Dec 31st, 2017 08:06 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

^..

i had a 71 LP and mine were on the verge of doing that as well....but they still worked great... however, being mainly a fender guy, I hated changing strings on my LP...I got so used to 6 on one side.....;-0

lonesomebill

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Dec 31st, 2017 11:00 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I use only two styles of tuners - vintage Kluson on Fenders and tulip style Klusons on Gibsons. If I have Grovers on a guitar, I change the heads to tulip style. I don't know why, I just like them the best.

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Dec 31st, 2017 06:14 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I just want something that will keep my guitar in tune.

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macatt
Jan 10th, 2018 09:02 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Advantages:
no string end sticking out to poke your finger.

easier to get back on the post after removing it for whatever reason.

looks cooler.

Disadvantage:
must pre-cut the strings.
no quick change on stage if you don't have cutters handy.

S Mac

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Jan 10th, 2018 03:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I prefer the vintage tuners. Even over some locking tuners. Some locking tuners are heavy and destroy the weight balance on some guitars IMO. On some guitars they are OK.

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Jan 10th, 2018 04:08 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The only problem I have with them is that by the time they're starting to tune and tighten up the tuner is bunched up with 3 layers of strings. Its almost as if the strings are made too long.

ejm

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Jan 11th, 2018 07:52 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

littleuch: Huh?


littleuch
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Jan 11th, 2018 08:44 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

:-p



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