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FDP Forum / Moe's Tavern (_8^(I) / Okay now I want a LP junior

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Peegoo
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Dec 30th, 2017 08:50 AM   Edit   Profile  

No kidding.

I saw him play at The Network in Pasadena MD in the 80s with hired gun Pat Thrall and they burned down the joint.


Sadly, The Network (like Hammerjack's in Baltimore) is now gone. After The Network closed, it re-opened as A.L. Gator's--a rock and roll club, but not even a shadow of what The Network was--for several years.

A CVS drugstore now sits atop that hallowed ground [peegoo takes a moment of silence]

If back in the 80s you told me I'd be buying Metamucil at that address in the New Millennium, I probably would've set your Camaro on fire.

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Dec 30th, 2017 09:02 AM   Edit   Profile  

Jeff Carlisi *compelled* my attention toward Explorers. ;)

One of my favorite bands since I first heard them back in the early 80s.

I don't have a LP Jr., but I do have a 62 Epiphone Olympic Special. Very similar ... though mine is modified a bit. It's in my profile.

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Dec 30th, 2017 09:24 AM   Edit   Profile  

The Junior is the only Gibson that I've coveted. My band mate had a '56 SC Tobacco burst that was as perfect an electric guitar as I have played.

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Dec 30th, 2017 09:26 AM   Edit   Profile  

My post in Miscellaneous regarding vintage guitars was because of a '59 Jr that came up for sale here. It's glorious, but at $4,850 would cost about 8 of my current guitars and amps. I couldn't do it.

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Dec 30th, 2017 09:29 AM   Edit   Profile  

I *think* he played that DC the longest of any guitar - until the PRS-era.

I can't find a decent picture of the DC to discern the pickups.

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Dec 30th, 2017 12:30 PM   Edit   Profile  

If I ever buy another electric guitar it will be a single cut LP Jr.

Peegoo
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Dec 30th, 2017 12:41 PM   Edit   Profile  

Pretty sure they were Bill Lawrence humbuckers.

Pat's LPDC was an early 1980's custom order, with a bass-side cutaway to match the typical LP treble cutaway. Unlike a normal DC with the hard 90-degree corner where the cutaways meet the neck, Pat's has a smooth curved transition.

Gibson resurrected this idea in 2015 on their DCs and it lasted about a year and a half because the carve is different and turned out to be unpopular with fickle Gibbofreeks.

Just prior to this in the late 70s, Memphis guitar shop Strings N Things converted a small batch of LPs to create a DC like this and they sold pretty fast. They also similarly converted one of Ace Frehley's LPs, and also made a few for Gary Richrath of REO.

The production DC 400 XPL had a hockey-stick headstock (a nod to Pat's Canadian heritage? Haha) and a Kahler vibrato.

Production XPL

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Dec 30th, 2017 01:00 PM   Edit   Profile  

Not sure how I came to think he had a big single coil in it at the bridge. Interview?

Made it was a greasy pizza dream.

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Dec 30th, 2017 01:56 PM   Edit   Profile  

Perhaps you were snortin' whiskey.


Which contains one of the meanest-sounding intro riffs ever recorded.

Dead easy to play too--which proves why Pat is such a kick-donkey rock and roll mortar forker.

Leftee
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Dec 30th, 2017 02:11 PM   Edit   Profile  

Love that tune! Wicked riffage!

vegetablejoe

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Dec 30th, 2017 06:17 PM   Edit   Profile  

What differentiates a LP Jr from a LP Special? If they had the same pickups, would they sound similar?


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Dec 30th, 2017 06:33 PM   Edit   Profile  

^ Generally speaking, but Gibson has always reserved the right the do weird things with similarly named models:

LP Jr - Non-capped body with single P-90 at bridge.

LP Special - Non-capped body with dual humbuckers

LP Jr Special - Non-capped body with dual P-90s

LP - Capped body with dual humbuckers (generally speaking)

All of the above with mahogany bodies, generally speaking :-)

(This message was last edited by Viera at 08:40 PM, Dec 30th, 2017)

BrentD
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Dec 30th, 2017 07:27 PM   Edit   Profile  

Viera, I think the Special has P-90s, just two of them. It also has a bound fretboard. The Jr. Special was a short-lived model in the late 90s and early 00s. It was essentially a Special without the binding and with P-100s (hum-canceling pseudo-P-90s).

The rest of it looks like I remember.

EDIT: Viera, you're right about the humbuckers in several models in the 90s. A couple of posts below reminded me. I was thinking of the original lineup - Junior, Special, Standard, Custom.

(This message was last edited by BrentD at 09:14 AM, Dec 31st, 2017)

Peegoo
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Dec 30th, 2017 07:38 PM   Edit   Profile  

To further confuse things, I have a Les Paul Special that has two P90s and a single cutaway. It's a slab-mahogany body in TV yellow, and it's not a Junior.

Gibson lost the bubble on the specs associated with their own naming conventions in the mid 1990s.

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Dec 30th, 2017 07:54 PM   Edit   Profile  

Great pair Peegoo!

Peegoo
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Dec 30th, 2017 08:46 PM   Edit   Profile  

I'll bet you tell ALL the sailors that!


Cheers, man.

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Dec 30th, 2017 09:40 PM   Edit   Profile  

They had another batch of the LP JR Specials that ended a few years ago. I picked up two when they were on close out.

I have a Gloss Yellow, and a Vintage Sunburst. They have the binding and two P90s.

I really like the JR, SP, and JR SP. Great guitars.

Gibson LP JR SP

(This message was last edited by De ville at 12:20 AM, Dec 31st, 2017)

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Dec 30th, 2017 09:42 PM   Edit   Profile  

Here's an SG Jr for sale over on the Mandolin Café site.

For Sale

(This message was last edited by jefe46 at 11:44 PM, Dec 30th, 2017)

Peegoo
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Dec 30th, 2017 10:25 PM   Edit   Profile  

They are great guitars for their simplicity. They are the Esquire and Telecaster of the Gibson line.

Matter of fact, Gibson developed the Junior *because* of the Fender Broadcaster. When the Esquire and Broadcaster were released, Gibson scoffed at the idea of a "plank of wood" that required no luthiery skills to construct. Their tone changed when Fender's design quickly gained traction in the market.

The all-mahogany guitar was a little tone machine which quickly caught on too because it was a Gibson and it was affordable.

BrentD
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Dec 31st, 2017 07:16 AM   Edit   Profile  

Peegoo, that white one is effin' rad.

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