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NoSoapRadio
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CO2 ... is there anything it can't do?
Dec 26th, 2017 11:38 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I just pulled the trigger on the larger motor, the TX (through the FDP Amazon link), and the 44T hand piece. I've already got the No 30 handpiece but it won't take tools with 1/4 shanks. I have quite a few 1/4 tools that I use with my electric die grinder -- but they will be much easier to use with the Foredom.

Thanks for the direction all.

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Dec 27th, 2017 08:55 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

NSR, I'm going for the same thing...next week.

Give us a report after you get it, please.

You know, initial impressions and what not.

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Dec 28th, 2017 02:17 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ryder,

The TX and hand piece was delivered today. I've spent a couple hours monkeying with it and I need not have had any concerns regarding the quality of the motor.
It is a tank. Power wise, the TX makes my old CC seem like a Dremel.

The 44T hand piece works great with my 1/4 carbide burrs and the quality of the tool is at least as good as my old No 30. Overall, I could not be more pleased with the purchase.

However, I am not wild about the footswitch speed control. It works fine, but it's just not what I am used to. My shop floor is mayhem and I can only imagine what bad things will happen to the switch if it is left there. I'll probably end up buying the benchtop EMX speed control.


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Dec 29th, 2017 10:47 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks NoSoap, I have some 1/4 in burrs also...and was hoping they would work with this model.

My shop floor is ok, but I don't keep it out of the way, I'll be stepping on it I'm sure.

Tell me more when you get to use it more.

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Dec 29th, 2017 11:55 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

NSR, if you're worried about dust/metal particles getting into the foot controller--no need for concern.

The new style speed control is not like the older open wire-wound rheostats.

It's fully enclosed (sealed) and pretty rugged...see link.

If the speed controller slides around under your foot, make a little pedalboard for it from 3/4" ply, about 8" x 14". Screw the pedal to one end and stick some rubber feet on each underside corner. This way your heel is on the board and your toe doesn't make the pedal scoot away.

You could use thinner board, but the added weight of the 3/4" stock is what makes it a better choice.

Here's a pic

(This message was last edited by Peegoo at 02:05 PM, Dec 29th, 2017)

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Dec 29th, 2017 12:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

And if anyone thinks a Foredom is expensive, cost comparison to a Jura makes the Foredom practically a disposable item.

This is as good as it gets for jewelry work.

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Dec 29th, 2017 02:36 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks Peegoo. I'm not really all that concerned with the durability of the switch.

I'm an old dog and the footswitch is a new trick. My old machine had a simple on/off switch and that was all I ever needed. I suppose the variable speed capability will come in handy now that I have it but it's not something I'll use every day.

I keep the Foredom on a hook screwed into an overhead floor joist and I usually just loop the flex shaft and handpiece over the same hook to keep it out of the way. This morning, I inadvertently stepped on the footswitch and the handpiece jumped off the hook and came at me like a rattlesnake. Luckily, I had a cannoli in my hand so I didn't try to catch it.

I need to work on being less of an oaf while I'm near electricalified tools.

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Dec 29th, 2017 03:36 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

NoSoap, that’s what I’m afraid of...inadvertently stepping on it.

Man, glad you couldn’t grab for it! Scarey, it’s something I would do.

lonesomebill

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Don't watch my foot!
Dec 31st, 2017 09:52 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Are "powered erasers" worth anything? I came across one when cleaning and don't know whether to toss it or not. Has a a hanger and long flexible shaft, but no speed variable. The mfg. seems to be RUSH TE201 model. Looks like they were used for erasing drawings as well as wire stripping.

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Dec 31st, 2017 10:10 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yes, the older ones are collectibles these days.

Draftsmen, architects, and letterers used these extensively in the 40s/50s/60s. I have one somewhere in a box.

You can still get the eraser refills.

As a power tool tho, they're not really usable because the motors don't generate much torque under load. You could, however adapt it for engraving with tiny diamond burrs. They don't require much torque at all.

lonesomebill

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Don't watch my foot!
Dec 31st, 2017 10:15 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks Peegoo--you are a fount of knowledge. I looked them up with google and ebay without much results.

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CO2 ... is there anything it can't do?
Dec 31st, 2017 10:55 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Just an update Ryder.

I spent some more time with the new Foredom yesterday and today. I have adapted to the foot switch pretty well -- I think I'll keep it.

I drilled a hole in a plastic spring clamp so I can hang it on the same hook as the motor. I'll store the handpiece in the clamp. I can't get it to come loose by stepping on the switch.

I rerouted the power cables so that I can easily kick the switch under the bench when not in use. Problem solved.

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Dec 31st, 2017 11:35 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Cheers, Lonesomebill. The erasing machine I have is one I inherited from my mom's brother Lou. He was a cartoonist who worked for Stan Lee in NYC, doing lettering for him. Lou passed away in his late 30s from a heart attack, and my mom got all his stuff (the power eraser, ruling pens, Speedball pens, Rapidograph pens, ink and paint brushes, airbrush, camera lucida, and a bunch of other very cool stuff).

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Butterscotch Blues
Jan 1st, 2018 07:22 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That sounds great NSR! I will be ordering mine this week.
I figured I could get used to the foot control also.

I'll post when I get mine. I'm into my sculpture to the point I need it.

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Butterscotch Blues
Jan 2nd, 2018 06:59 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ordered my Foredom TX and hand piece also from the Amazon link for FDP.

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Jan 3rd, 2018 10:50 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a question.
You know the sets of burrs, etc. you see on Amazon for $16? Really? 228 pieces for $16.

I've had my burrs so long I don't remember where I got them. Wasn't ebay or amazon. 1/4 inch shank, I think they were around $20-22 apiece.

Where do you buy your accessories for you Foredom?
From Foredom?

(This message was last edited by Ryder at 12:51 PM, Jan 3rd, 2018)

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CO2 ... is there anything it can't do?
Jan 3rd, 2018 11:06 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I got my carbide burrs from Mcmaster-Carr. I've got the 4308A2 set.

As I recall, I got my small sanding drums and mandrils from either Rockler or Woodcraft.

Cutoff wheels etc., I just buy Dremel accessories -- although, I will look into the diamond cutoff wheels that Peegoo mentioned earlier.

Mcmaster-Carr

(This message was last edited by NoSoapRadio at 01:09 PM, Jan 3rd, 2018)

Ryder
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Butterscotch Blues
Jan 3rd, 2018 12:49 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks NoSoap, I'll bookmark that one. The TX will be here Monday, I think.

Sooo, can I hang this on a chain connected to the hook in the floor joist above? For more room to move? I don't know. Would the motor move around too much?

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Jan 3rd, 2018 01:13 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yes, the motor will twist or spin on the chain as soon as you engage the tool into any torque-y work like a sanding drum or carving wheel.

If you need to hang it from a joist, make a hanger from a short vertical piece of 2x4 lapped and screwed into the joist above. Install an eye screw (see below) that you've twisted open a little into the bottom of the 2x4 and hang your motor on it.

Opened eye screw

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Jan 3rd, 2018 01:34 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I wondered about the motor twisting after I posted that.

Got ya on 2x4 hanger. That's what I need to do. Oh dang, mine has a ceiling in it. For my lights above I screwed open eyes into the joists just the same.

I wouldn't be able to lap joint it. Also, I guess that's why I asked about the chain type hanger. I can only go from an above hook....or.....I could make it attach to my work table where I will be working with this tool.

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