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FDP Forum / The Chop Shop / Why Christmas songs sound "Christmassy."

Peegoo
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Dec 8th, 2017 08:23 AM   Edit   Profile  

According to this examination, it's the m7b5 chord form. But there are plenty of others, e.g., Maj7, etc., that add that can turn a listener's emotional screwdriver.

And there are plenty of tunes that don't venture into the jazz-chord realm.

Whaddya think?

The m7b5? Hmm.

Te 52

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Dec 8th, 2017 11:32 AM   Edit   Profile  

"...And there are plenty of tunes that don't venture into the jazz-chord realm..."

If you call it a half-diminished seventh chord, then it's not jazzy any more.

He may have a point, though. Here's a similar passage, this one with a fully diminished seventh chord, that does indeed sound "Christmassy."

E A D G B e

7 x 5 7 8 x ... I'll be (G/B)
6 x 5 6 7 x ... home for (Bbdim7)
5 x 5 5 5 x ... Christmas (Am7)
5 x 4 5 3 x ... D7/A

(This message was last edited by Te 52 at 01:41 PM, Dec 8th, 2017)

Achase4u

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Dec 8th, 2017 02:19 PM   Edit   Profile  

Kind of depends on the definition of Christmassy but yea I guess that chord does show up as well as diminished moves for that melancholy or sad feel that is sort of lingering at times in the vibe of Christmas. I mean, Jimmy Stewart almost jumped of a bridge for Pete's sake!

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Dec 8th, 2017 02:34 PM   Edit   Profile  

Edit: Never mind. I went back and listened to the link.

(This message was last edited by HenryJ at 04:40 PM, Dec 8th, 2017)

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Dec 8th, 2017 04:09 PM   Edit   Profile  

LOL at Jimmy Stewart almost jumping off a...

[ahem] well, you know what I mean.

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Dec 8th, 2017 05:11 PM   Edit   Profile  

But, isn't it a chicken or the egg question? He explains how the chord in Mariah's song is the same as in "White Christmas". So, is the chord "Christmassy"? I don't think so. It's used in thousands of non-Christmas songs. I think it's because we have actually have heard "White Christmas" our whole lives, and so we have that chord progression in our vernacular. If you played that progression for someone in 1930, I doubt they would think of it in the same way.
So, I think the chord isn't Christmassy on its own, it just reminds us of the most beloved Christmas song.

(This message was last edited by gdw3 at 07:13 PM, Dec 8th, 2017)

Peegoo
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Dec 8th, 2017 06:22 PM   Edit   Profile  

I agree.

It's like eating a food (as an adult) that you enjoyed as a child: the nostalgia factor is emotionally powerful.

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Dec 10th, 2017 12:46 AM   Edit   Profile  

So thats how it works !!

:)

Thanks for posting the video



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