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mfitz804
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Dec 7th, 2017 08:34 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Never had AWD before. I am assuming the only times it would be useful are a) in snow, and b) off road, where I will never be.

Assuming also that engaging AWD reduces my gas mileage, are there any other times I might find it helpful?

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Dec 7th, 2017 08:42 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Twisty mountain roads.

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Dec 7th, 2017 08:43 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Which vehicle? Many do it automatically when they lose traction...

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Dec 7th, 2017 08:45 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You don't engage AWD -- it is engaged automatically by the car when it detects one or more of the tires slipping. AWD cars usually operate like an FWD car, but if the onboard computer detects slipping, it'll give power to the rear tires.

Popps

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Dec 7th, 2017 08:51 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have had 3 AWD vans/cars in which it is/was on all the time. My understanding is with 4 wheel drive, it is switchable. After having it all these years I would not go back to 2 wheel drive, the AWD is so much more stable in all kinds of weather and road surfaces.
And yes, it does reduce your mileage by a little, but, to me that has always been a fair trade off.

mfitz804
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Dec 7th, 2017 09:07 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Which vehicle? Many do it automatically when they lose traction..."

2017 Nissan Rogue

"You don't engage AWD -- it is engaged automatically by the car when it detects one or more of the tires slipping. AWD cars usually operate like an FWD car, but if the onboard computer detects slipping, it'll give power to the rear tires."

There's a button to turn it on and off, hence it must be "engaged". Are you saying I should keep that button pressed all the time?

"And yes, it does reduce your mileage by a little, but, to me that has always been a fair trade off."

How little are you talking?



Popps

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Dec 7th, 2017 09:21 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My larest car is a 2011, there is no on or off button, this my be something new that I am unaware of. As for mileage, 1-2 MPG.
I tend to drive less than 10,000 miles a year, so I am ok with the mileage thing.

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Dec 7th, 2017 09:21 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

We have a Pathfinder (hopefully not for long - grrrrrr).

We only engage it in snowy conditions if we need the traction. Often we don't have issues in the snow any ways. So - the short of it is we rarely engage it.

Justin

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Dec 7th, 2017 09:28 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I don't have sound at my computer right now so I didn't hear any of it, but I did find a Nissan video for your purpose. It appears to be a button to "lock the center differential" - not in an old school sense, but probably with a center clutch of some sort?

2017 Nissan Rogue - All-Wheel Drive (AWD) (if so equipped)

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Dec 7th, 2017 10:18 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

According to Justin's video link it will automatically engage when needed. You can lock it in with the switch. So it is a little different than our Pathfinder.

I would just leave it in auto. If you have to drive in a bad snowstorm I would lock it in.

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Dec 7th, 2017 11:54 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That is what I gathered as well. On my way to the bank at lunchtime today, I decided to press the button for the first time. If indeed lights up on the dashboard as AWD lock. I felt no difference with the button having been pressed.

And, once the car hit 25 mph, the lock automatically disengaged. That means I couldn’t possibly drive around with the button pressed all the time, since I’m usually hitting 25 or above on most of my trips.

I will do as suggested, and hit the button if I’m driving in the snow storm. Otherwise, I will just trust it to do it’s thing.

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Dec 7th, 2017 11:55 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've got a Nissan Murano. The AWD kicks in if it detects the front wheels spinning. This has only happened a handful of times in the six years I've had it, even in fairly heavy snow. You can also engage the AWD with the switch, but it only works up to about 40mph, at which point it automatically disengages.

mfitz804
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Dec 7th, 2017 02:56 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Kind of seems like they just gave me a totally useless button.

Now I don't feel bad that I waited 2 months to push it!!

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Dec 7th, 2017 02:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Don’t feel bad. It took me about three months to use the 4wd in my pickup.

I’m hoping for big snow this winter.

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Dec 7th, 2017 03:10 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I used my AWD for the first time this winter last Thursday. It didn't kick in automatically, but I felt a lot safer with it on.

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Dec 7th, 2017 03:11 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Remember that it only helps with traction while accelerating! It's not going to do much if anything for going around corners and it's not going to do anything at all for braking.

Chris Greene
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Dec 7th, 2017 04:31 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

One of the great things about the Land Cruiser (and its Lexus version) is full time four wheel drive. I don't have to press anything to engage it as it's always engaged. On my era of LC, it has a center differential lock and 4 Lo. I've only needed to engage either of those options a few times. Sure, I get 14-15 MPG but I don't drive much and have beastly tires on it (BFG KO2 265x75x16). The LC's in the USA are sold with passenger tires but anyone even the least bit serious about driving off-road will replace those tires with E rated AT tires for the thicker treads and, depending on tire, stronger sidewalls.

mfitz804
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Dec 7th, 2017 08:07 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

“I get 14-15 MPG”

I avoided a full time four wheel drive for exactly that reason. Way too much city driving for that kind of gas mileage to be feasible for me.

Chris Greene
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Nine mile skid on a ten mile ride
Dec 7th, 2017 09:45 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yeah, but this...

My 2002 Lexus LX 470

mfitz804
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Dec 7th, 2017 09:54 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If that’s where I was driving, different story. My time is spent...

...here.

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