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Guitar Fool
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Sunshine State

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Dec 6th, 2017 04:05 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

been texting my cousin...she was born and raised in Ventura...so far for her at least, it's not critical, but there is no power... pretty scary stuff....

I'm keeping my fingers crossed....

Taildragger
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an acquired taste some may never acquire
Dec 7th, 2017 09:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Heard on the radio last night that the Thomas (Ventura) fire has now consumed 90,000 acres and reached as far north as La Conchita (near the Ventura/Santa Barbara County line).

Prognosis doesn't look good: 50-MPH, Santa Ana winds with 80=MPH gust and warming temperatures today and no rain in sight.

(This message was last edited by Taildragger at 12:29 PM, Dec 7th, 2017)

digiboy

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Dec 7th, 2017 09:49 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The pictures I've seen here and some others are amazing and truly terrifying. If you are in the area, hope you can stay safe and by all means get out of there if it's even getting close.

Taildragger
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an acquired taste some may never acquire
Dec 7th, 2017 10:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Think about when you blow as hard as you can on a fire in your fireplace or woodstove and then...

...multiply that...

Taildragger
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an acquired taste some may never acquire
Dec 7th, 2017 10:37 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

...several orders...

...of magnitude:

Taildragger
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an acquired taste some may never acquire
Dec 7th, 2017 10:46 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Looks like a Hieronymous Bosch painting...

...painting:

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Happy Sunsets, tahitijack
Dec 7th, 2017 12:11 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

News this morning of 40 horses trapped in a barn burned to death. One of the hands said they tried to get them out but the fire was too hot and too fast and too dangerous. He was obviously very upset.

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Dec 7th, 2017 12:37 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The issue with these types of fires and horses is that they happen too fast. There is no time to react.

When that last hurricane hit S. FL lots of folks trailered their horses north. I know the GA National Fairgrounds in Perry, GA opened up their stables for these folks. These folks had days of notice.

Not so with a wildfire.

They probably have hours at most. Maybe a day.



Taildragger
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Dec 7th, 2017 12:42 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

There was some talk of people just letting their horses run loose to at least give them a better crack at survival than leaving them penned up.

But it occurs to me that turning loose 40 fear-crazed horses at a whack could potentially put fire fighters and others in the area at risk.

Seems like one of those unfortunate situations where there aren't really any good options from which to choose: just a number of bad ones.

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Dec 7th, 2017 12:59 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Very true!

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Je Suis Charlie
Dec 7th, 2017 10:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Update: currently we are still under voluntary evac. We are staying put but cars are loaded for a quick escape if needed. Current wind is calm, east front of fire burned across a mountain i watched all last night, it burned to the Pacific Ocean late today. North front of fire coming from behind us is moving slowly westerly about 7 miles away. Assuming wind stays calm we will have no mandatory evac. Air quality is improving. Another long sleepless night ahead. Thank for well wishes gang. Much appreciated.

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Dec 8th, 2017 02:08 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Prayers and moejo for southern California.

I wish they could have the same weather we have had here today. It hasn't stopped snowing since around 7 am.

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Idaho, USA

Nine mile skid on a ten mile ride
Dec 9th, 2017 01:31 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Saw this photo in the LA Times. Results of the Thomas fire in one former neighborhood. I cannot imagine what these folks are going through.

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clf
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Je Suis Charlie
Dec 10th, 2017 10:35 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Woke up surrounded by hellfire at 2 am. We loaded the dogs and split. Northern wall of fire descending was three miles wide. One home lost behind my neighborhood. Five water dropping choppers an 100 engine companies saved many homes. Back home now. Fire moving westerly. Two massive fronts. I've never seen a fire this big in all my years living in California.

(This message was last edited by clf at 12:36 PM, Dec 10th, 2017)

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Idaho, USA

Nine mile skid on a ten mile ride
Dec 10th, 2017 10:48 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Very glad to hear your home survived.

Taildragger
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an acquired taste some may never acquire
Dec 10th, 2017 10:52 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I remember the relief of coming around that last bend in the road in 1956 to see our house still standing after having passed several that were little more than foundation walls and a chimney.

Glad you won the lottery, clf!

Taildragger
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an acquired taste some may never acquire
Dec 13th, 2017 07:18 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Anybody know what the next shoe t'drop is gonna be, especially as regards the Thomas fire?

Bingo: extreme erosion and mudslides, at least if the weather does a U-turn anytime soon and turns very rainy.

Otherwise, the typical cycle goes something like this: drought...then fires...then frantic aerial re-seeding with anything that grows quickly and will held hold the charred hillsides in place given half a chance (generally, hardy, zero-maintenance, wild plants wildflowers and native grasses A.K.A. "weeds")...then several years of rapid growth of the fast-growing stuff planted, creating ample fuel load...then another drought...and so on.

At least, that's how it worked when I lived down in SoCal. A whole lot of building on unstable adobe soil has been done down there. I'd advise anybody who has charred hillsides around their home to invest in some erosion netting ASAP just as a preventative measure.

clf
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Je Suis Charlie
Dec 14th, 2017 10:57 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Final post in this topic: Family and house made it. Sadly a firefighter died on this fire this morning. Makes me so sad. 9000 fire fighters helped with the forth largest fire in recorded California history. Not over yet. Probably not out until after the first of the year but getting under control. Over 1000 structures destroyed...mostly homes. Really scary stuff. Earthquakes are nothing compared to fire in California. Now I'll spend the next two weekends cleaning up dust, ash, smoke smell out of everything. Thanks to all for the well wishes. Back to life now.

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Idaho, USA

Nine mile skid on a ten mile ride
Dec 15th, 2017 03:32 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It wasn't terrorism, it was the homeless bums living (at least where the Skirball fire is concerned) in a ravine nearby. Cooking fire...

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Taildragger
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an acquired taste some may never acquire
Dec 27th, 2017 05:47 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Drove down 101 and through Santa Barbara/Ventura earlier this week. Seen in person, the burn area is indeed impressive. Jumped the freeway @ Solimar and turned a large grove of palm trees into crispy critters, but a cursory glance (I was driving) seemed to indicate that the FD guys saved all the nearby beach homes there. La Conchita also narrowly dodged the bullet.

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