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jefe46
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Nov 29th, 2017 05:05 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have also wanted a portable table saw.. What I saw was not professional quality.

The Saw Stop portable is around a grand.. other than the safety feature seemed on par with saws selling for half the price.

See if you can find an old INCA model 259... Precision built, out of print.

The contractor's saws were excellent machines.

Take it apart and move it.

(This message was last edited by jefe46 at 07:06 PM, Nov 29th, 2017)

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Nov 29th, 2017 05:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Take it apart and move it."

I never considered that.
I have tweaked my old contractor saw so much it really really cuts accurately. I have watched and read so many reviews. These new portables all look like junk to me. I may keep it.

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Nov 29th, 2017 05:40 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

See my first post.

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Nov 29th, 2017 07:21 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If you're not going to be moving it around, a cast iron cabinet saw is the bee's knees.

I've used and tried several over the years because I needed something portable with ~3" depth capacity. The one I have now is the best one this far: it's the DWE7499. 10" blade with a 32.5" rip capacity and plenty powerful. The rack and pinion fence control is the best I've ever used on a portable saw. It positively locks and is accurate down to less than 1/32". It's on a sturdy rolling stand that folds up compactly and it easy to toss into the back of the truck.

If it's portability you need, you can't get a better saw for the price.

The newer models have some sort of blade guard system that's designed to keep you from leaving a finger on the saw. I personally am not a fan of all the clamp-on safety crap (e.g., riving knife, blade guard, anti-kickback pawls, etc.) because they get in the way.

But I understand the attorneys have to get involved in the design because there are some folks who will always blame someone else when they maim themselves with a dangerous tool.

SS2

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Nov 29th, 2017 09:28 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have one of the older generation Dewalts, think it's a pretty decent saw for a lightweight portable. The rack and pinion jump a tooth now and then and I have to re-align it, but no real complaints. The newer version would be a first look for me if I was in the market for such.

If you have a Delta contractors saw already, I'd also suggest keeping it. Not really that difficult to strip down and move... I have a Delta Unisaw that I used to move to jobs, was a bit younger then.

Like Peegoo, "I personally am not a fan of all the clamp-on safety crap".

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Nov 30th, 2017 05:26 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

What about for light use, home projects a few times per year? Would the Hitachi/Dewalts at Home Depot or Lowe’s be worth it?

SS2

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Nov 30th, 2017 05:55 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Would the Hitachi/Dewalts at Home Depot or Lowe’s be worth it?"

Both companies make IMO decent quality tools... The Hitachi table saw is currently on sale at Lowes for $329 (w/stand)... Had an older Hitachi portable table saw and it was fine until I used a Dewalt with the rack and pinion fence, then I switched to Dewalt. Looks like the Hitachi has switched (as many saw makers have) to a rack and pinion system. The fences these saws use these days is a night and day difference over the old clamp/track style.

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Nov 30th, 2017 06:47 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks guys. I will look at stripping my Delta/Rockwell down a little and try to move it. I've had really good luck with all of the Delta woodworking tools that I have. Most of my stuff is Delta or Porter Cable. I have some Milwaukee stuff too. I like good quality tools.

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Nov 30th, 2017 07:17 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

We got one of these a work a year or so ago. It replaced a larger Delta table saw because of its portability. The guys that use it, (maintenance), say they like it.

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Nov 30th, 2017 07:25 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

There was a video put out about 30 years ago by a woodworker in Berea, Kentucky.. the topic was how to set up and make jigs specifically for the contractor's saw.
Excellent. I have it as an old VCR maybe it is still available as a DVD.

I have a 12" 3 HP (plus) all cast iron table saw with a sliding table. (I use it with 10" blades) I have moved it 5-6 times.
I dismantle it to include removing the motor, top etc.
Reassemble and adjust. Better than a portable and no money spent.

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Nov 30th, 2017 10:40 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'll pile on and add another vote for keeping the contractor's saw. I tear mine down completely every few years and clean out all the sawdust and crud in the screws and trunnions, refinish the cast iron top, and then reassemble doing a meticulous set up.

I'll finish up with a new new blade and v-belt if necessary. I've been running a link belt for 6-7 years and it has held up well and really helps with vibration.

I also have a 10" Delta benchtop table saw that is light enough to carry up on a scaffold. I use it for cutting wood shingles and other repairs. It's not much good for anything else.

If you just want to spend some money ---

My shop is pretty small. My contractor saw is on a mobile base and I have to move a lot of stuff around if I want to use it to break down sheet goods. Earlier this year I bought a track saw for that purpose. I set up a set of sawhorses outside and use the track saw to cut sheets of veneered plywood to finished dimensions. It's worked out so well that I doubt that I will use the table saw for plywood again.

Of course, I looked at the Festool as well -- but this was 400 bucks less expensive. I think it does a great job.

Makita SP6000

(This message was last edited by NoSoapRadio at 12:43 PM, Nov 30th, 2017)

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Nov 30th, 2017 10:54 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have an old heavy Unisaw and it's tough to beat for cabinet work. But I'll be the contrarian and say that for most everyday work, the modern portable 10-inchers like the DeWalt DWE7491RS or the Bosch 4100-09 are great tools with the advantage of portability. Each is around $500 on Amazon.

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Nov 30th, 2017 04:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Festool


Do the research before you lay down any money for the "brand".

You tube has several videos of teardowns and reviews of their tools.. Enlightening.

jefe46
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Nov 30th, 2017 04:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Seem to be new versions of the Table Saw video.

Link

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Dec 2nd, 2017 10:19 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Jefe -- what do you know about Festool?

I've been tempted to try/buy one of their tools because so many folks seem to love them, but when it comes time to lay down the cash I just can't see why I need to pay 40-50% more than a Dewalt, Bosch, Milwaukee, or Makita that does the same job. In fact, they seems quirky and under powered to me.

The only Festool product that I have ever seriously considered is their Domino machine. But I already have a plate joiner and I know how to cut tenons and chop mortises -- so I've resisted.

(This message was last edited by NoSoapRadio at 01:17 PM, Dec 2nd, 2017)

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Dec 2nd, 2017 09:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I work a lot of large construction job sites as a cabinet installer and have seen a lot of these, so I bought one. its great.

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jefe46
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Dec 2nd, 2017 10:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'll find the you tube site for you .. a guy who reviews tools..

He is a hoot and and engineer and will tell you what he thinks without any hesitation...


Basically he says that there are some very good details such as machining on some Festool products but it is largely mystique and hype and advertising and maintaining high prices to support that.. and my favorite...


they will not allow their dealers to discount.. !!!! with a penalty of cancelling their dealership status.. that is simply illegal.. BTW SAW STOP does the same thing and says that is "fair trade" BS it's collusion and price fixing.. I have already contacted Oregon State Consumer Board of Affairs about both these companies.


I'll do some research and get back with the you tube guy.

(This message was last edited by jefe46 at 12:50 AM, Dec 3rd, 2017)

jefe46
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Dec 2nd, 2017 10:49 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You Tube Festool Review

Thread Drift

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Dec 3rd, 2017 06:18 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

AvE is a funny guy. Check out his recent vid of his little daughter in the machine shop. It's great!

SS2

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Dec 3rd, 2017 06:52 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"have seen a lot of these"

The Dewalt's do seem to be the majority choice on construction sites I've been on too... carry one in my van.

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