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FDP Forum / Fender Bass Guitars and Bass Amps / Put on your anoraks - '64 Precision quiz

liverbird

UK

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Nov 28th, 2017 08:31 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

OK let's have a bit of vintage fun...

This '64 Sunburst Precision was on Ebay very recently - looking at the pics, I spotted one unusual feature, who's with me?

There might be more but this is definitely one for the anoraks!

Lukkydog

USA

Nov 29th, 2017 07:35 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I consider myself reasonably competent to find fake irregularities in P-basses, but a quickie exam of the pics doesnt show me anything.

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Nov 29th, 2017 07:40 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hardware and headstock logo are correct. Can't see the electronics well enough to know if a pot has been replaced. All looks as it should.

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Nov 29th, 2017 11:11 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

(This message was last edited by rwb at 01:13 PM, Nov 29th, 2017)

Popps

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Nov 29th, 2017 11:13 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

April 5th 1964 was a Sunday.
Does this mean it is a fake, or maybe someone was working that day?

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Nov 29th, 2017 12:22 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I looked over all of my info. Only possibility I found was the threads on the string guides of the bridge being too small?

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Nov 29th, 2017 12:36 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That case looks wider than it should be for the body, though I am not a vintage case expert. I do know that while a Precision bass will fit in a modern G&G Jazz Bass case, the opposite is not true.

As to the Sunday neck date stamp, probably best explained by how busy the factory must have been at the time in 1964 (actually working on a Sunday, or not setting the date stamp accurately).

(This message was last edited by BobbyMac at 04:44 PM, Nov 29th, 2017)

liverbird
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Nov 29th, 2017 07:03 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Popps, the number '5' in the neck stamp isn't actually part of the date - it is the model code for the Precision bass. '7' stands for a Jazz bass, '2' for a Stratocaster etc.



liverbird
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Nov 29th, 2017 07:07 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Just to clarify - I wasn't trying to insinuate that this bass isn't the real thing. Pre-CBS Fenders have pretty consistent features overall but not in the way of modern-day instruments, so small variations do show up occasionally.

I'll leave this open for a little while longer, I'm sure someone will be 'nailing' it eventually!

Popps

New England

Nov 29th, 2017 07:33 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

liverbird, as the say, learn something new every day. I have had my p bass since the late '60s and never knew that fact. I just checked a '72 neck over in the corner that someone pulled the frets on and there it is, the number 5 next to the date.
Thanks for that info.


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Nov 29th, 2017 09:50 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Liverbird, I took your hint and just didn't know the locations. So I did some searching and found this:

"Hi everyone,
after checking the decals and waiting for a conclusion in this very tricky issue, I come now to the "holes".
1. I did found 3 nail holes (64 Jazz Bass) on the front of the body. One near the neck one under the bridge and one near the lower screw of the electronic plate.
Must there be a fourth one?
And when did fender used theses nail holes and how long?
They are clear of paint.
2. On the back of the body I found a filled hole, bigger than the nails holes. It�s placed around
1" 13/16" under the neck plate. The hole is big around 1/8" and is filled with wood. It has the same colour as the body. You only see the rounding of the hole.
Is this a clamping hole. Must there be more and if Fender used the nail holes for drying the finish, what did they use the clamping hole for?
Thanks for answering,
Cheers,..."

You're talking about the hole on the back?

liverbird
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Nov 29th, 2017 09:59 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Not on the back!

edmonstg

Newberg, Oregon

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Nov 30th, 2017 05:58 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

bird:

I love these old "bar queens."

What's all this with the big hole drilled on the floor of the pickup cavity?

The screws on which the bridge saddles slide back and forth for intonation and string tension adjustments remain a source of interest for me. For example, doesn't the E-string screw seem longer than the others? May just be an optical illusion.

George

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Nov 30th, 2017 07:55 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I don't see anything at this time...
If it's the nail holes/spray-bar issue,then that was not uncommon at times of high production.The instrument would be sprayed with the "bar" attached,but dried standing on the nails,most likely because there was no capacity left at that moment on the "drying trees".Usually anticipated,the nails would be driven in before spraying.

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liverbird
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Nov 30th, 2017 05:37 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I was referring to the position of the nail hole next to the control cavity. On Precisions from those years, it's almost always on the side of the cavity that's closer to the neck.

On this bass, it's on the side where you would usually find it on a Jazz. But then again, I've seen the odd Jazz (very few) where it's on the opposite side.

Done by a human with a hammer and a nail, so hardly surprising there can be variations. However, those features are quite consistent overall!

liverbird
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UK

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Nov 30th, 2017 05:44 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

George, not sure what you mean about a hole in the pickup cavity, I can't see it?

Hard to tell about the length of the bridge intonation screws - could be the angle of the photo, I guess?

edmonstg

Newberg, Oregon

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Nov 30th, 2017 06:05 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The pickup cavity I'm seeing is featured bottom right in a panel of four photos which includes a shot of the butt of the neck in the upper left hand corner. The pickup cavities are in the bottom right photo in the panel and there appears to be a very large hole against the wall of the pickup cavity on the right side.

George

liverbird
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Nov 30th, 2017 06:19 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

George, I see what you mean. When zooming in, however, this looks like some sort of dirt/residue rather than a hole, at least on my monitor!

edmonstg

Newberg, Oregon

Fender...never say never.
Dec 1st, 2017 11:54 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I understand. There's no substitute in our world for having the axe "in your hands."

George

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