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6L6
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Nov 27th, 2017 08:17 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I lost my 64 yr old brother-in-law yesterday to rectal cancer. He had refused all along to have a colonoscopy performed (you should start at 50 yrs of age).

There is not one spot of cancer history in his family.

There's little doubt this could have been headed off had he just gone in for the simple procedure (I've had it done three times and will have it done again in February. There's nothing to it.).

This ain't one to mess with folks. If you're over 50, see your doctor and get it done.

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Nov 27th, 2017 08:22 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

So sorry to hear that 6L6, my condolences to you and your family.

Additional PSA, even if you're younger than 50, get checked if you have symptoms. My SIL had colon cancer at 47; she pretended the symptoms were something minor, like hemmarhoids, but they persisted. She did have surgery and was cured, but could have avoided it with early detection.

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Nov 27th, 2017 08:24 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sorry about your loss. I have been getting that procedure for years now. I think I started about age 50 like you recommend.

While we're on the subject of cancer, don't put off that Digital Rectal Exam either.

(Prostate cancer victim here)

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Nov 27th, 2017 08:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have bugged my LEO retiree lunch pals to have the procedure ..... they see it as some sort of medical buggery, I guess.... they wave it off, shift uncomfortably and refuse to discuss it.

DRE's are therefore out of the question, of course.

I get both.



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Nov 27th, 2017 08:37 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic



SquareWave
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Nov 27th, 2017 09:46 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Colon/rectal cancer is nothing to mess with. My sister was diagnosed with colon cancer when she was 33. After years of unexplainable symptoms and numerous doctor visits, she finally saw a doctor that insisted she be tested for cancer. Sure enough, a tennis ball sized mass was found in her colon. She had surgery to remove about 21" of her colon, and spent the next 18 months undergoing intense chemotherapy treatments. She's been cancer-free for about 4 years now and is doing well. Doctors told her that if she had waited any longer, things would have gotten really bad really quick. They estimate that this mass had been growing over the past 6 years prior to discovery.

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Nov 27th, 2017 10:17 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My condolences, I Lost my Bother to this cancer about 4 years ago, a horrible way to go.

Just to be clear the Colonoscopy procedure it a lot easier than dying of cancer!

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Nov 27th, 2017 11:26 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

There is a risk involved. I lost a friend to a botched Colonoscopy. Like all tests, it's up to the individual to weigh the risks and make an informed decision.

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Nov 27th, 2017 11:29 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sorry for your loss. Being 55 this year, I had a routine Flexible Sigmoidoscopy which was easy enough. Yes, don't put these things off.

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Nov 27th, 2017 11:30 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

During my annual checkups, my doctor kept trying to get me to schedule one. I kept putting him off, saying "Maybe next year."
When I hit 55, he wouldn't take no for an answer.
Had the colonoscopy followed by surgery to remove about 10 inches of my colon a couple of months later. No cancer, but large, flat polyps that most likely would have turned cancerous at some point.
His insistence probably saved my life and I later told him so.
Had I had it done several years prior, the surgery may not have been necessary.
The prep is the worst part. Buy a couple of magazines and spend a day at home, off work, and just accept the "cleanout" for what it is.
The procedure is nothing -- put on a hospital gown, go to sleep, wake up and get dressed. Then treat yourself to your favorite meal.
If you haven't had one yet, get it done.






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Nov 27th, 2017 01:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sorry to hear that 6L6, that is indeed a rough way to pass from this life.

I just had my 10th colonoscopy last month as I have been on a 3 year rotation after having a small focus of cancer found in a sessile (flat) polyp back in 2001. I too had to have about 12 inches of colon removed (surgical margin) in an open procedure due to that little bugger. Left me with both a ventral hernia I just had repaired in August, and a Diastasis Recti that I just have to live with. Fortunately, the ventral hernia mesh surgery helped to flatten that belly bulge cause by the diastasis.

Anyway, since the surgery, just more benign polyps each time I have a colonoscopy. This last time though I only had a couple and my gastro doc loosened up the interval to 5 years. Good O !

My primary care doctor won't do PSA or DRE's unless you have "specific symptoms", she says they don't do screening exams for prostate cancer anymore. I've even asked about it...she asks me a dozen questions and based on my answers says "no you don't need it and don't want it". :)

I expect to turn 70 next month...

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Nov 27th, 2017 03:59 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I had a colonoscopy 15 years ago, nothing found, then I had another about 5 years later and a couple of polyps were removed. The polyps were benign, but the gastroenterologist told me that they probably would have become cancerous in 5 years if ignored. I've had a few more since then and the worst part is the prep, as has been said. (Drinking laxative, nothing to eat, and watching Burger King or KFC commercial every 10 minutes. No fun.) But, it's a small price to pay.
My daughter had about 20" of her intestine/colon removed back in June, she had cancer. She's diabetic and has blood test every 3 months and the 1 test found her anemic and the resulting colonoscopy probably saved her life: she's just 40, BTW. It's never too early to have a colonoscopy, IMO.

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Nov 27th, 2017 04:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

So sorry to hear that, 6L6. Your advice is worth gold.


Back in 2004 I had the right side o my large intestine removed because of a large tumor behind my liver. Had a colonoscopy not detected that, I would probably be dead now.

I'm 57 and enjoying my life more right now that any other point in time.

Getting old ain't for wussies--but there is a lot to be said for doing the medical tests and monitoring one's health.



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Nov 27th, 2017 07:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"My primary care doctor won't do PSA or DRE's unless you have "specific symptoms",..."

That's scary. You're on Medicare - just make an exam appt. with a urologist; no referral needed.

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Nov 27th, 2017 08:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Had my last one in 2014, due for another in 2 years.....

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Nov 28th, 2017 05:39 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

009...not without specific symptoms, otherwise you might as well get the other 250 odd screening tests...most of which don't result unnecessary procedures than can really mess you up. I do have a urologist btw and he also concurs with the new protocol. He has often said you might die with prostate cancer but not likely because of it unless you ignore the symptoms.

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Nov 28th, 2017 07:48 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well, at age 70, I can see the reluctance to screen—let alone treat—(for) prostrate cancer. I’ve had PSA lab tests regularly, and when my PSA went above 4.0 ng/mL at age 65 (no symptoms) I investigated to determine the cause. This was not a headlong rush to any unnecessary procedure. My intent was to make an informed decision, which would be impossible without further investigation. Long story short, I did indeed have prostate cancer (1.2 cm lesion with slight marginal involvement), and opted for a robotic assisted laparoscopic prostatectomy (RALP). I continue to track my PSA level; it’s not 0.00, and I’m warry.

When the medical community saw a rise in prostate cancer deaths after implementing those “don’t worry, be happy” PSA screening guidelines, they started backpedaling on that stance.

In my case, there were no unnecessary procedures. The choices were all mine, and it is the patient who should make those decisions — not the physician, who should only be advising/informing.

Anyway, I’m glad you’re OK.

(This message was last edited by 009 at 09:50 AM, Nov 28th, 2017)

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Nov 28th, 2017 08:13 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Cancer can be well established before it gives physical symptoms of being there... 2x experience.


willie
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Nov 28th, 2017 08:50 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Problem appears to be that even with a confirmed prostatic cancer, it isn't necessarily highly invasive or deadly. There is currently a great deal of ambiguity in much of the medical community as to the proper way to test, confirm, treat or not treat prostate cancers. They are not all the same. Much like simply having colon polyps does not mean they will ever become cancerous. Benign polyps do not become cancerous, while adenomatous polyps do have the propensity to become cancerous.

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Nov 28th, 2017 09:09 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

With cancer being as fickle / unpredictable as it is, my personal approach is to address it aggressively. Once a localized tumor metastasizes, it's pretty much "game over."

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