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littleuch
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Nov 23rd, 2017 10:38 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yeah MG, I had built a 50's 2 tone burst Strat and had the Blues Specials in it initially. On the first gig I played it through a Vibro King and was a bit disappointed how brittle it sounded. I then put in the 54's and wham, the sound in my head. Oddly, I tried replicating this guitar years later with another build and a 2nd set of Real 54's fell short, sounding a bit lifeless. I even tried to match all the pots by digging through the bin and measuring them against my #1. No joy.

Tone is an odd thing. I definitely think our ears are more forgiving to the concept of tone when a guitar is in the hands of skilled player. I'm doubting a monster chop player like Greg Koch or a tactile player like Mark Knopfler could ever make me cringe, no matter the guitar/amp.

Peppy

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Nov 23rd, 2017 11:13 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Peegoo:"It's been known for many years that a cheap guitar through a fine amp will always sound and respond better than a fine guitar through a cheap amp. However, most guitar players tend to focus on the guitar itself because that is the human interface of the two-part system."

Thread.

DrKev
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Nov 23rd, 2017 11:54 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

macguy: "The MusicMan Luke III BFR can wait...lol"

Oh man, I don't know, that is an amazingly good guitar! HH or HSS?

A buddy of mine has two 1 watt Marshalls that are great but the JTM-1 Offset is just jaw-droppingly good. Couple that with a Princeton reverb for sparkly cleans and I'd never need another amp ever again for home or recording.

walshb
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Nov 23rd, 2017 02:17 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Can you get that famous Marshall tone from the DSL CST 40/20? "

That amp gets great reviews on a certain other unmentionable forum. Considered one of the 'best bang for the buck' Marshall amps.

macguy

USA

Nov 24th, 2017 10:38 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

DrKev...it would be the HH...I played one two weeks ago at the local music store, went back the NEXT day and it was gone. I could order one but I like to be able to play hands on before I put out any $$. The store will order one with a small refundable deposit so I may have to go that route.

MG

Leftee
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Nov 24th, 2017 10:44 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Over the years of dinking with gear on the bench I’ve learned what does what. It’s an intricate dance. And the posts here cover that well.

All the gear in the chain comes together to make one instrument.

LeftyMeister

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Nov 24th, 2017 02:48 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

^ Yep!

walshb
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Nov 24th, 2017 05:37 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"And to add to that. if you want to "sound like a Marshall", then buy a Marshall."

Why didn't ya just say that, years ago?! ;)

" The writer said he grabbed a Strat and plugged into a small amp and still sounded like Brian Setzer."

I tend to sound "like me" no matter what I am playing through, also. But that doesn't mean that I sound "the same" through any gear I play. I've heard the same said about SRV, that he sounded "like him" when walking into a club and plugging into whatever was up there on stage. But I can guarantee you, at the time, he wasn't standing up there wishing he had that same setup to use on stage. ;)
I definitely don't sound "the same" through my Marshall....but I probably still sound "like me!"



LHW

Southwest Florida

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Nov 25th, 2017 09:11 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I agree with the theory that an amp can make the biggest difference.
I recently purchased one of the new Marshall Code modeling amps, and I am amazed by the different sounds it produces. No, it doesn't do a perfect simulation of all things Marshall, but it comes darn close. Factor in the Fender and Vox clean and crunch tones, and you have unlimited possibilities.

(This message was last edited by LHW at 11:13 AM, Nov 25th, 2017)

LeftyMeister

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Nov 25th, 2017 09:22 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I tend to sound "like me" no matter what I am playing through, also. But that doesn't mean that I sound "the same" through any gear I play. I've heard the same said about SRV, that he sounded "like him" when walking into a club and plugging into whatever was up there on stage. But I can guarantee you, at the time, he wasn't standing up there wishing he had that same setup to use on stage. ;)
I definitely don't sound "the same" through my Marshall....but I probably still sound "like me!""

That's a good point!

Our old Rivera Chubster 40 would do a great Marshall impersonation on the Brit channel.

macguy

USA

Nov 25th, 2017 09:07 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I think I found the solution...I plugged into a Vox AC10 and then tried a Boss Katana 100 Combo. The Boss was surprising and the Vox was glorious...I will try an AC15 HW 112 Combo next week and make my final decision...I want a smaller, lighter amp than my 65 lb Super Reverb or the 2x12 EVM 12L cabinet I use with my DUAL Showman to use at practices, home playing etc. I will still likely use the Fender amps at gigs...but, the music store guy says the AC15 HW Combo will more than handle an outdoor gig within obvious limits and the Boss may even cover it. The Katana is 27 lbs and I think the Vox AC15 weighs in at just under 50 lbs...we'll see how it goes. I couldn't believe the "sound" (tone) of the Vox with a Tele.
Thanks for all the opinions and comments.
MG

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Nov 26th, 2017 03:44 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"...then tried a Boss Katana 100 Combo."

I you want to go a step up from the Katana, have a look at the Roland Blues Cube's. (not to be confused with the other 'Cube' series)

I recently got the Blues Cube Artist and it's a great sounding versatile amp but without 1000 amp models and FX. It's a simple straight-ahead 2 channel amp with EQ, reverb and tremolo.

Variable output from .5w/15w/45w/80w.
1 x 12 weighing in at 16kg (35 lbs)

They also do 30 or 60w 1 x 12 versions as well if you don't require an FX loop or Tremolo.

Worth a look IMO. That'll be 2 cents please :^)

(This message was last edited by Mick Reid at 08:20 AM, Nov 26th, 2017)

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Nov 26th, 2017 05:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Mac...

"I couldn't believe the "sound" (tone) of the Vox with a Tele" I've heard that before! Good luck with your decision.

walshb...

"That amp gets great reviews on a certain other unmentionable forum. Considered one of the 'best bang for the buck' Marshall amps"

Thanks, I ordered one.




Charente
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France

Nov 26th, 2017 10:21 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Another vote for the amp from me.

If you're already fairly happy with your current tone then speaker and pickup changes can help you fine tune it.

Otherwise a nice amp can 'add value' to all of your existing gear.

walshb
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Nov 26th, 2017 11:37 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Thanks, I ordered one."

Awesome! Let us know how you like it!




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