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Therealfrogman
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Dec 5th, 2017 11:19 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Grey Goose, the accompaniments are to complex. I play a clean 3 chord pattern and it comes back with a drummer that wants to piss me off, the bass player is playing notes he should not be.

I know I probably need to read more about it but I got idea... Just too much going on for me to play with.

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Dec 5th, 2017 11:55 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That sounds okay to me, I'll let those guys play while I go back to the dressing room and eat M&M's

Leftee
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Dec 5th, 2017 02:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Leftee >> Orders M&Ms

Picks out the brown ones.

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"Thumbpicks don't slide into soundholes"
Dec 5th, 2017 03:05 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Peegoo is right it'll definitely be good for chord structure and may even give you some ideas on bass lines or beats. If you download the upgrade ...firmware and install it you can dumb that bass player down to basics just by setting it that way. Before I did that I was ready to chuck the whole thing in the trash as a failed experiment.

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Dec 5th, 2017 03:20 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Of those that don't seem to care for it, are we talking the Trio or the Trio +? (Or both?)
I've read elsewhere that there are people using these live, mostly acoustic stuff, but successfully. And I've also heard some "recordings" that sounded pretty good, although not "live band" good of course.

I ordered my plus with the extra pedal to have a little more flexibility, hopefully this will be a useful tool! Still have my fingers crossed...

thumbpicker
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Dec 5th, 2017 03:33 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Walshb I think it's going to be useful overall for practicing. I just found the type of beats and bass lines didn't really correspond to my idea of what they should be. Finding my rock beats in R&B category etc.

I'm using mine with an acoustic and I fingerpick a bit so it seems to track some stuff in a double-time fashion if I get too busy for it when it's learning. The looper on the plus will definitely be an asset. The switch will help you arrange the song better than bending over to hit those little lighted switches all the time. I'm using just the trio not the plus but the downloaded revision is helping a lot. The rest is probably me not wanting to strum as much a s pick.
Some stuff comes out perfect and others go off the rails on me. If you are used to a looper that will help you to figure out the arrangement better.

Therealfrogman
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Dec 5th, 2017 04:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I downloaded the updater and it says no trio device found, restart etc, windows 10 64. Windows says its a bad usb device. Sheesh.

EDIT: a different cable worked.

(This message was last edited by Therealfrogman at 06:05 PM, Dec 5th, 2017)

Therealfrogman
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illegal is a sick bird....
Dec 5th, 2017 04:25 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I dumbed the bass down and I like it more than an hour ago:-)

Leftee
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Dec 5th, 2017 04:53 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Is this the +?

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Dec 5th, 2017 05:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

How do you "dumb the bass down"? Do you have to plug it into the computer to make adjustments like that? I would prefer simpler bass lines.

walshb
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Dec 5th, 2017 06:03 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"How do you "dumb the bass down"?

The Trio + has a "simple bass" button, not sure it the original Trio has this....? Probably not!

Leftee
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Dec 5th, 2017 06:11 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I went back and looked. He bought a Trio. Non+

Mick Reid
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Dec 5th, 2017 07:45 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

As I've posted earlier, my one & only experience with the Trio+ was lukewarm at best, but I've been contemplating a looper...

Well Ms. Reid has got me a NU>X (pronounced nju-eks) Loop Core Deluxe for Christmas (hasn't arrived yet). It doesn't have a bass player, but I'll be able to record a bass line the way I want it. FTR, I am *not* a bass player, however there won't be any struggling to "teach" one either.
Time will tell if the drum patterns are practical. They do sound very usable in the demo.

The retailer she bought it from has an excellent returns policy so it's win/win. The looper and control pedal is only $199 here, so it would be cheap as chips in the states I guess. (Trio+ are around $450AU)

Just another option for practice and composition.
Also loops can be imported/exported via computer.

YouTube demo

(This message was last edited by Mick Reid at 09:47 PM, Dec 5th, 2017)

twangdoodles

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Dec 6th, 2017 06:26 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Here's the firmware update for the original trio. Notice the "updated release notes" as that's where you'll find out how to simplify the bass once the update is done.

I bought mine when they first came out, I put a review in the reviews section here.

The trio is a good practice tool. Can't imagine wanting to use it live myself though. The key here is to not expect too much from it and make sure to be very simple and concise when teaching it a song. If you're looking for the drum parts you hear in your head well, you might get lucky once in a while. Bass parts? Probably never.

What makes it a great practice tool is that it offers so many variations; try different genres and see what happens, you may get your horizons and abilities expanded. If you want specific stuff then you need a bassist and a drummer.

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twangdoodles

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Dec 6th, 2017 06:28 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Here's the windows version of the updater:

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Dec 6th, 2017 06:40 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Last spring I bought the Trio+ and footswitch when it was 1st replacing the Trio. I have none of the issues I've read here but I didn't pay $50 for an old version either. The + can simplify bass lines and of drums (if I remember right), but I think it was engineered to not be so busy anyway. The main point I'd reiterate is that the simpler, the better when teaching the pedal a progression. And it doesn't even have to be chords. You can teach it a single, simple note progression and then play and record chords and leads over it via the looper function. I would think that fingerpicking chords would be problematic.

Therealfrogman
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illegal is a sick bird....
Dec 6th, 2017 07:45 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The release notes with the updater explain how to dumb the bass down. Hold the guitar fx button down while turning the bass knob fully counter clockwise.

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Dec 6th, 2017 08:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks for directing me to the update notes. Kind of like manuals, I rarely read them and suffer because of it.

Leftee
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Dec 6th, 2017 01:33 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Looks like I’ll be doing the update before I play mine.

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Dec 6th, 2017 03:34 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've been working with mine. The important thing is to play really simple even notes or chords when you are 'teaching' the Trio.

I don't use it fo r it's full capacity. It can do a whole song with parts and everything.

All I want is for a basic drum/bass rhythm loop and I"m happy. My goal is to noodle along and experiment before I waste too much time with my band asking them to play the same loop for an hour.

It's a great tool for working out lead solos at home.

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