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Stratmanx
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Nov 21st, 2017 05:18 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Found this on local Craigslist.

He listed it as a 1975 Kustom Cab with 1972 Utah's.

First off, I've got a late 60s 3 x 12 Kustom w/ CTS speakers as a reference and its a lot sturdier built in every way than this one as the pictures below will show.

If I go by the speaker code 328214 that should reference 328 -Utah, 2 - 1962, and 14 as the 14th week of production ?

Looking at the construction of the cab, its pressboard baffle, lots of staples to join parts, and the back panel does not screw onto the cab, its a press fit, and you can verify that as there are no screw holes in the braces in the cab for the back to screw into, and a hole where the obviously added length speaker cable feeds thru.

There's no Kustom badge, no screw holes where it would be affixed.

Here's a ringer, the handles are stock as well and are exact matches for my reference cab.

So playing sleuth, is this cab something like the early Sears Silvetone, and other cheap offerings, and made in 1962 based on the speaker code ?

And getting back to the handles, they had to be a common thing back then as I don't think Kustom was in existence in 1962.

I gave the guy $100 for it. His asking price.



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Stratmanx
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Nov 21st, 2017 05:21 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Inside

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Nov 21st, 2017 05:21 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Speaker code

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Nov 21st, 2017 05:22 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Back panel side view

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Nov 21st, 2017 05:23 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Handle

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Roly
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Nov 21st, 2017 10:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It's been a very long time....roughly 1970.
The cab doesn't look "fluffy" enough.
I remember our Kustom PA having more bulbous folds on the tuck and roll covering.
Do the cabinet coverings look the same on both your cabs?

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Nov 21st, 2017 10:35 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Very cool ! I still have a Kustom 4 - 12" bottom that used to go along with my Kustom III-L solid-state head. It's a semi-open back design on castors that originally was wired for 4 ohms.

Right now, I have it wired with two separate inputs to access each two 12" pair at 8 ohms.

It's a well-built, very solid cabinet. I'm not sure of the source of the OEM speakers in it.

Mike

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Nov 22nd, 2017 05:03 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You correct Roly, it isn't fluffy enough.

It is the same naugahide covering, the pleats are the same width, but the "foam" isn't as thick as my reference Kustom.

Plus the overall construction inside just is a lot cheaper than the actual Kustom.

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Nov 22nd, 2017 08:05 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That is definitely a custom-made (not Kustom-made!) cabinet.

Done in someone's garage, probably.




Pegboard? Hang your screwdrivers in there!

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Nov 22nd, 2017 08:13 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I found additional info on these speakers that look exact, have the same 40 1275 first set of digits, and it would then appear that the 328214 I have would then refer to Utah, 1972, 14th week of production.


"ORIGINAL VINTAGE
1970
UTAH / REALISTIC
40-1275
"Special Design"
MFG / Date Code 380002
12" SPEAKER
SOLD 12/7/07

75 WATTS
"ORANGE FRAME"
Ceramic Magnet

for sale
Great condition Utah 12" Ceramic magnet, "Orange Frame" guitar speaker, made for Realistic. 1 3/4" voice coil. These are Realistic branded speakers made by Utah, before they started putting those stupid seams in the cones. It looks, works and sounds great! Minor, obligatory dents in the aluminum dust caps. Original paper cone and surround perfect! Date code is 380002 (2nd week of 1970). Measures 8 ohms. It passed our audio generator sweep test and is ready to install. These speakers sound great! Very efficient. Ready to drop in that old Fender, Gibson, Ampeg or other amp or Vintage Hi-Fi.
UTAH / REALISTIC 380002
Cond. 8.5
SOLD 12/7/07"

Go to the bottom left of the page for the listing.

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Nov 22nd, 2017 09:34 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm guessing here but this looks like a "PLUSH" cab from the early 70s. Speakers are probably '72 not 62. It may have been a bass cab that somebody changed the baffle to 2-12.

I have a plush 4-6L6 head from about this time and the tuck & roll job seem about the same. They, Plush from New York City, knocked off Kustom. The workmanship is very meh.

Just a thought.

amphead4

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Nov 22nd, 2017 08:25 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I had a Plush head and the construction was horrible. It had large can caps in series in side, not through a chassis hole. Normally the can is grounded by virtue being twist-locked in the mounting hole but Plush had the whole can live at a high DC voltage, hanging inside the chassis. It was crap.

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Nov 22nd, 2017 09:23 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Here's a typical Plush amp and cab.

Looks like a frigerator wearing a crap ski jacket.

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Nov 22nd, 2017 09:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

This one looks like some kind of

electric Tootsie Roll.

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Nov 23rd, 2017 12:01 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Not fluffy enough".


Hysterical, yet absolutely descriptive.




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Nov 23rd, 2017 05:29 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I think the better term is poofy.

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Nov 23rd, 2017 01:56 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Back in my AF flying days, a fellow crew member had a Hostess Ding Dong in his lunch.

The cabin pressure at 33K feet is equivalent to about 8K feet compared to that of sea level (lower pressure). That meant the Ding Dong's sealed Mylar package was now inflated and hard like a tire.

The guy keyed his interphone mic and announced to the crew, "Hey! My Ding Dong is puffy!"

If there were a ditch in the sky, we would've driven into it laughing our silly arses off.

Leftee
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Nov 23rd, 2017 02:32 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Lol!

What aircraft?

Peegoo
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Nov 24th, 2017 07:11 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

RC-135.

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Nov 24th, 2017 08:13 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Home grown.

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