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greg1948
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Nov 15th, 2017 06:24 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I tried to like the Gibson LP Studio goldtop, I did. but it wasn't really what I wanted. So, I traded it in for a 2017 Classic goldtop. Comfortable neck, terrific pickups, just the finish I wanted....yep, a keeper.

But (and there's always a but..), I find that playing the high E, the the beveling of the fret ends makes the string slide almost off the fretboard. Just enough in some cases to deaden the sound or cause a little buzz. Maybe it's my faulty guitar technique, because it has happened with a couple of other guitars, but it's still an annoyance. Wish they'd given me a little more room to work.

That said, the only time it's really noticeable is when I play by myself with clean settings. In a band situation with a bit of gain, no problem

So, I'm still giving this guitar top ratings. Maybe not as high as my PRS custom 24 though!

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Nov 15th, 2017 08:16 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

This is fixable!

You can replace the bridge saddles (cheap) and re-groove them for a slightly narrower string spread. Oftentimes a millimeter is all that's required to get rid of that 'string sliding off the fretboard' issue.

As a general rule, I like about 1/8" distance between the string and the edge of the fretboard.

Some makers get careless even with a full 1/8" distance and file too much of a ramp on the ends of the frets, which shortens the fret crown's length.

And sometimes the nut slots for the E strings are cut too close to the edge of the fretboard.

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Nov 15th, 2017 11:18 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Peegoo nailed it. I have seen unfixable cases, though. A tech at a place offered to check the fret ends on a Strat I just bought and filed them so much that the rosewood fretboard plank was beveled, too. I had to return that guitar and was mad because it was really a good one.

If it's just the frets, it can be fixed!

Often when I shop I look for a neck to be a little off-center giving extra room on the high side because as a player I pull more than push. Other people are just the opposite.

(This message was last edited by BrentD at 01:18 PM, Nov 15th, 2017)

greg1948
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Nov 18th, 2017 06:14 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The "slipping off the end of the fret" syndrome became apparent when I was practicing some pull-offs. Yesterday, I grabbed my PRS started the pull-offs, and, yep, the high E was over the edge. The G&L ASAT, same. So, it's no fault of the LP, it's my pulling downwards as I pull off! Don't know if there's a cure for that.

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Nov 19th, 2017 12:40 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If it bugs you, let it happen but consciously tell yourself you're mad about it. Eventually you'll fix it on your own IME.

It's like your golf stroke. Takes time. DO NOT call Mr. Meeseeks!

telegib

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Nov 20th, 2017 03:47 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

This is an issue with Gibson IMO. I rarely find this with Fender. Especially with the bound fret ends. That's why Gibson removed the binding on the frets and widened the necks a couple of years ago in attempt to fix this.

I love Gibson but hate that issue.

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Nov 20th, 2017 05:42 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My 2017 LP still has the binding on the fret ends.

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Nov 20th, 2017 06:48 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"So, it's no fault of the LP, it's my pulling downwards as I pull off! Don't know if there's a cure for that."

You would really have trouble on a Ric! Pulling down on the high E more than just slightly is bound to be problematic.

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Nov 20th, 2017 07:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The wider High Performance/Soloist neck width on those LPs fixes this problem easily!

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