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MJB
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Nov 10th, 2017 06:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

5Strats +1.

It's the 21st century. People beating the snot out of other people shouldn't be entertainment.

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Nov 10th, 2017 07:40 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

they should all wear those inflatable Sumo outfits...

problem solved...

"I find it interesting that they always ignore mixed martial arts/UFC, boxing and other sports that are just as dangerous."

excellent point.....and what about auto Racing?..its extremely dangerous.....


but I would bet anything that retired NFL players if they had the chance to do it all over again they would... the money and the lifestyle they live is hard to pass up..


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Nov 10th, 2017 07:44 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

...Bob also likes to preach to the rest of us about guns as well.....

so we know what side of the "fence" he sits on....

he's just way too full of himself

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Nov 10th, 2017 08:00 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

He's afraid of the pending court cases of retired players racking up huge payouts. The NFL response will be to start using in helmet sensors with accelerometers in them. If a hit trips the g meter a coach on the sideline will be notified and the players will go thru concussion protocols.

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Nov 10th, 2017 08:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My son goes to the same school that I did. When I was a lad, starting in Junior High football was a BIG DEAL -- if you were a dude and wanted to be somebody, you had to be on the football team.

This year there were only 12 players on the Junior High team (7th + 8th grade).

It's not just here, though. Lots of schools are slowly losing their football teams.



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Nov 10th, 2017 09:37 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"but I would bet anything that retired NFL players if they had the chance to do it all over again they would"

I believe that most of them would. I would have loved to have been an NFL free safety, or wide receiver.

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Nov 10th, 2017 10:08 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Rush Limbaugh has predicted it's demise (the game as we now know it) a while ago...but for different reasons.

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Nov 10th, 2017 10:29 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

true Mikey.....

the concussion thing is just part of it...the game itself suffers from a host of other issues as well....

standing/kneeling
too many play reviews/challenges/commercials/stoppage of play
too many rules..most of them are stupid..and the focus on player safety has resulted in way too many penalties
butt ass ugly uniforms...the players look like crayons!

and the game has been hijacked by the news media/entertainment industry

they've succeeded in making it just about impossible to sit through a game without getting bombarded with interviews, human interest stories, politics, raising awareness causes...etc.

its just sad...watching football on Sunday's in the fall/winter was something I always looked forward too.

as far as I'm concerned, the NFL is dead

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Nov 10th, 2017 11:07 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Because of the kneeling dumbassery and the way the spineless owners/league supported it, I haven't watched a game since 9/24.

It's been nice to get my Sunday's back.

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Nov 10th, 2017 11:20 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"they've succeeded in making it just about impossible to sit through a game without getting bombarded with interviews, human interest stories, politics, raising awareness causes...etc."

Agree. Okay, I'm gonna say something really SEXIST here, but seriously, get the women with the microphones out of the players' and coaches' faces; they drive me nuts, acting like this is *their* game...just about intolerable every time one of them opens their mouth.


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Nov 10th, 2017 11:54 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I think that the game will be saved but it will change so much that in thirty years none of us would recognize it. Which, of course, will not be a problem for us!

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Nov 10th, 2017 12:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Okay, I'm gonna say something really SEXIST"

oh you sexist pig you!....;-0

if it makes you feel less sexist about it, my wife agrees with you 100%....you should hear her rant about it...lol

Rasmuth

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Nov 10th, 2017 01:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

the NFL has for more pressing problems than brain injuries...the fact that the game has morphed into a sport that isn't that much fun anymore. Too many penalties. Video review kills momentum. You can't play pass defense anymore. Kickoff returns have been more or less legislated out of the game. Decades of kicking records have been invalidated from rule changes. God forbid you actually hit a quarterback. 5000 yards passers are now commonplace. Quarterbacks are given about 2 seasons to prove they are superstars or they are labeled busts and they are ruined. Some take more time (see Terry Bradshaw among others.) Same applies to head coaches...some get virtually no time to develop a team in this "win it yesterday" mentality that has developed. Let alone the ungrateful jerks who feel the need to protest the anthem for the country that gives them the ability to make ungodly fortunes for playing a damn game.

Just put flags on 'em and just take the hitting away already. It's steadily moving in that direction.

I know I sound like a "get off my lawn" kinda guy, but the game is a shadow of what it once was.

(This message was last edited by Rasmuth at 03:36 PM, Nov 10th, 2017)

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Nov 10th, 2017 02:28 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

As long as we're being honest -- I don't give a rat's rectum about players brain injuries.

If these guys were being paid $40-50K a year -- you know, like how we pay infantrymen, fire fighters, Navy Seals -- people who *actually* are doing a job that is likely to damage their health, I would have some compassion.

But they are being paid millions -- they aren't being exploited by the owners or the league. If anything, they are all complicit in exploiting the fans. These guys know what they are getting into when they turn pro.

I'm glad I was around to watch in the 60s, 70, and some of the 80s, when the game was still great.

If the NFL goes belly up tomorrow, I won't care.


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Nov 10th, 2017 02:41 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Obviously little Bobby Costas is speaking from his personal experience. Although I don't think he ever played the game.

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Nov 10th, 2017 03:03 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

NSR nailed it.

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Happy Sunsets, tahitijack
Nov 10th, 2017 03:38 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

NFL needs more Pat Tillman. Watched the game last night and a thousand thoughts crossing my mind during the tribute. Just remind the players from time to time what a real hero looks like.

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Nov 10th, 2017 03:38 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

being from outside the USA, it is only recently that I have taken an interest in gridiron,ie American football.

The types of football played over here Australian rules rugby union and Rugby league, don't require padding and helmets.

I was surprised and amazed that the helmet was allowed to be used a weapon when tackling.

in the games over here protection of the head of a player is part of the rules.

Was there a point in time when the game changed, to players leading with their head because it was protected by a better quality helmet than an old leather style one ?



jay1vinton

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Nov 10th, 2017 03:55 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

As a veteran myself, I see that Patriotism or Commercial / Patriotism is taking over with all the flat flags, and soldiers and sailors at every game in uniform expounding on well.. patriotism. I believe the game has sold out to a national fetish. If that isn't the same propaganda we denounce, I don't know what is...

This only started in earnest after 9/11 when it was fitting, now, it is so watered down and so regular it's contrived.

I'm not one that will stop watching. I've enjoyed playing and watching my whole life. But the kneeling and commercialism is killing the game as we know it. Mr. Goodell has not been good for the game regardless of his stances on domestic violence and player behavior. The Zeke thing is part and parcel of judged before actually being judged. He's got the two most powerful men in Football mad as hell at him and that cannot go well.

(This message was last edited by jay1vinton at 06:04 PM, Nov 10th, 2017)

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Nov 10th, 2017 04:12 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The NFL has been dead to me for years.

Main reason is when Bud Adams and the NFL dangled the franchise carrot to the Memphis area with NO intention of a team being awarded here. This was when the Houston Oilers moved from Houston. The city of Memphis jumped through all the hoops, kissed all the arses and still did not get the team. Nashville did.

I'll always believe this area would have supported an NFL team.

Effem all.

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