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stratcat_4760
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Nov 9th, 2017 09:55 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I just want a normal, truthful, unbiased news report.

Or....

At the least; label the headlines somehow as "opinion piece" so I can skip over it, which I kinda already do when I see the source of the headlines.

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NNJ

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Nov 9th, 2017 10:06 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Go to the source, Reuters or AP wire services.

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Nov 9th, 2017 10:29 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sorry even Reuters and AP add editorial comments in their reports. Bias is next to impossible to avoid.

stratcat_4760
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Nov 9th, 2017 10:43 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I would feel somewhat confident to say;

Probably the last fully committed to 'fact news casts' went out with black and white TV airing.




I should be a billionaire with my fact news channel......I'd make millions.
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littleuch
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Nov 9th, 2017 11:17 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a theory that the proliferation of "fake news" entities in social media is in fact controlled chaos designed to have the masses come flocking back to the MSM.

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Nov 9th, 2017 11:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well, we are in an information era when there is a "relative-to-what?" aspect to perceiving what is real/truthful.

And, people are provably stupid.

"Dezinformatsiya" is the Russian word for much of it. The point is to get you to not believe or trust anything.

it's a continuum

(This message was last edited by professor at 01:41 PM, Nov 9th, 2017)

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Nov 9th, 2017 11:53 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I don't watch TV news much, and I don't have Facebook, but each morning I read one liberal and one conservative newspaper.

What's interesting is the differing amount of page space dedicated to the same issue in the two different papers.

And then, each morning I get the requisite number of shrill, hysterical "sky is falling" missives forwarded to me, that are destined for a quick trip to the recycle bin.


Grey Goose
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What?
Nov 9th, 2017 12:10 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I watch local, national and international news. I also read a local paper.

In my opinion a little over 3/4 of this news is fine and bias doesn't really change anything. The other 1/4 can really change with bias.

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Nov 9th, 2017 12:20 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"but each morning I read one liberal and one conservative newspaper."

And there is the problem. The fallacy is that "the truth is in the middle". It isn't.

When both sides are inherently biased, or more accurately, dishonest, gleaning the truth from the combination is futile.

Unlike in a court of law, the media cannot be compelled to tell the truth.

"And, people are provably stupid."

Agreed, and more often than not, the stupid people are the ones reporting, writing, and distributing the "news".

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Nov 9th, 2017 12:26 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I like the BBC. Brits are unfailingly rigorous about this sort of thing and I tend to trust them more than US.

BBC

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Nov 9th, 2017 12:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Everyday I hit several news sites, among them

FNC
CNN
USA
ABC
CBS
MSN/MSNBC
WSJ
NYT
WAPO
Breitbart
Hotair
HuffPo
Townhall
Politico
UPI
Reuters


I believe about 10% of what I read, if that...

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Nov 9th, 2017 12:50 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I do find it informative and sometimes amusing to follow a story across various news outlets and see just what slant is being put on by who. I don't expect "neutral" from anywhere, so I'm never disappointed.


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Nov 9th, 2017 12:50 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I feel like this guy

Barbarino's Despair

stratcat_4760
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Atchafalaya Basin

South Louisiana
Nov 9th, 2017 12:55 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sourcing factual news today is like a basket case roadster.

Get *parts from here, here, and here.
*stories

Take the time and *inventory.
*read/comprehend

Decide what *can be built.
*is truth



Now you may have something worth talking about.

Hammond101
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Nov 9th, 2017 01:06 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm some what behind on current events and news in general. I quit watching and reading many years ago. I was so tired of the spin on everything. It has only gotten worse.

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What?
Nov 9th, 2017 01:08 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Weather, sports, upcoming events, deaths, etc. doesn't change greatly with bias.

Political and political type news is greatly effected with bias.

I'm more interested in the first group and less interested the second.

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Wait, what?
Nov 9th, 2017 01:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I just want a normal, truthful, unbiased news report."

Doesn't exist, instead choose multiple sources both sides of center. Try to pay attention to the side you dis agree with for say 25% of the time to avoid harmful effects.

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Nov 9th, 2017 01:23 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Of course you may want your news sorted by bias, depending on your mood.

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K4
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Nov 9th, 2017 01:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

According to your link the USA today is "least biased"

Yea right.

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About as ordinary as you can get.
Nov 9th, 2017 02:14 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I believe about 10% of what I read, if that."

Yeah, and when only 5% is true, that ain't bad.

This is an early DOB thread but I am just fed up with the news. 100% one side on some channels and 100% the other side on others. That ain't journalism in any case.

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