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JJuran
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Nov 8th, 2017 05:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi All -

I'm playing electric bass in a pub gig with an acoustic guitar player and a singer who sometimes plays a tambourine. No drummer.

I recently saw a performance of Emily Barker, a singer/songwriter who plays guitar and sings (opening act for Mary Chapin Carpenter). No other musicians with Emily. Emily was great and I really enjoyed her set. On a few songs, she added some bass-drum 'oomph' to the beat with a foot-actuated pedal but I couldn't see exactly what she was using. It was some smallish plank of wood with a cable coming out of it, slightly larger than an effects pedal, into the house sound system. Really did the trick for a few songs that she used it on.

I didn't get a chance to meet her after the show so off I went after the show wondering what she used.

My pub gig could use something just like what Emily used. Any one of us could hit it on the right beats at the right time. I think it would add alot to some of the numbers we do at the pub.

I've been searching the web for these instruments and there are several to choose from, but all the video demos and sound samples sound like somebody's tapping on a tin can. I'm thinking its the medium/pc and I need to hear for myself. Local GC and other music stores don't stock these things so I can't personally try/hear one in person.

Does somebody here have first-hand experience with such devices, and can they recommend something that sounds good enough to do a decent job of sounding like a kick drum?

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Nov 8th, 2017 06:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The

Beat Buddy

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Nov 8th, 2017 06:59 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

And the Digitech

Sdrum

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Nov 8th, 2017 07:06 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The Beatbuddy Mini is also available, because teensy stomp boxes, Disney Babies, and cute little emojis are all the rage these days.

It doesn't have all the functionality of the full-up Beatbuddy, but it will get you there for the low low price of $100.

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Nov 8th, 2017 07:41 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

They are literally known as a "stomp box" (generic term). Solo artists have been using them for years.

In the "olden days" people would make their own by putting a microphone inside a padded wooden box, and "stomp" on the "box".

They can also be made (DIY) by using a speaker as a microphone (wired in reverse).

Both of those and lots of other DIY stomp boxes usually require a separate EQ to cut out all the tops to get some thump.

There is a guy here in AUS that makes what many have said is the best stomp box in the world.
The Wild Dog Stomp Box (formerly Bigfoot, formerly Wolftone) are not cheap but they sound incredible. The most drum-like sound I've ever heard from a "box".

The guy has been *very* protective of his proprietary electronics design. He even drills out the screw heads to make opening the box tamper-resistant.

I am not affiliated with the maker but I toured Australia for 4 years with a trio where the guitarist used one of the original Wolftone units.

edit:
I just did a quick search and there are bugger-all video demos, but will keep looking.

Wild Dog - no affiliation

(This message was last edited by Mick Reid at 09:50 PM, Nov 8th, 2017)

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Nov 8th, 2017 08:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Search under "Bigfoot Stompbox demo" there's a few.


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Nov 9th, 2017 10:41 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks Guys. Good input. I'll check out the beat buddy and the The Wild Dog Stomp Box.

I'll report back when I've got something.

Thanks again

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Nov 9th, 2017 11:03 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

We don’t have a drummer, I made up a 8”X6” or so slatted front porch half box with a large disk transducer to a phone plug out, for those few songs that have 4 or so beat spaces that benifit by a count. I have a tambourine and drummers kick pedal that I’ve been meaning to add to the box.

I enjoy being drummerless for a change. The last drummer was really great but his dead on timing was almost sterile and I had no control over the tempo, it was just too rock solid, no breath or natural deviation that can really benifit some tunes. I have a great sense of timing and he just never linked up with me. I could and did lock in with him but I need more space. I don’t know if I’m saying it right or if y’all can understand what I mean. Even the tempo needs to breath.

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Nov 9th, 2017 05:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'll bet it was one of...

...these.

JJuran
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Nov 9th, 2017 09:13 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

hmm ... thanks Te but Emily had something a bit larger than the Travelog 2. Looked more like the Prolog but did not have the instep contour on it.

After reading Mick's post, and based on my recollection, she may have had the Dingo from Wild Dog Stomp. Emily is Australian. Perhaps she picked it up at home before she went on tour...

Leaning in that direction (Wild Dog Stomp). I really don't want a drum machine - way too much work. The Logjam stuff gets really mixed reviews. Some love it, some don't.

We've got a gig on the 22nd of this month. Let's see what I can get before then and I'll report back about it all.

Thanks all



Mick Reid
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Nov 9th, 2017 10:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Emily is Australian. Perhaps she picked it up at home before she went on tour..."

Huh, I didn't know of her until now.
The Aussie connection would lead me to thinking a Wild Dog or older Bigfoot.

I bet even with express post the price wouldn't too bad in USD. You probably wouldn't think twice about paying that much for a any other instrument.


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Nov 10th, 2017 12:58 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have used a Porchboard for years. It does exactly as advertised. it sounds like you are stomping your foot on the front porch of an old wooden house.

It works better if plugged into a bass amp rather than a mixer because the mixer will tend to clip the signal if you hit it hard.

porch board

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Nov 13th, 2017 07:02 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Mick,

I've seen the Wild Dog in action at small concert by an Australian blues artist. I was impressed by it so much I had to ask her what she was using to get that sound.

Her name was Fiona Boyes. She's a world class picker too.

Fiona Boyes

Mick Reid
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Nov 14th, 2017 06:20 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Her name was Fiona Boyes. She's a world class picker too."

That she is. I used run in the same circles when I was playing in a touring band. The little bit I interacted with her, she seemed like a genuinely nice, humble person to boot.

She plays in the States quite regularly now.


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Nov 15th, 2017 06:43 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"The little bit I interacted with her, she seemed like a genuinely nice, humble person to boot."

Agree completely. We talked about her gear for a good 15-20 minutes after her show and she seemed quite genuine in her eagerness to talk about it. She has some pretty unique instruments too.


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Nov 15th, 2017 03:35 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've got inquiry into Peter at Wild Dog Stomp Boxes... I'm inclined to go there before anything else. If I don't have it for the gig, so be it. Dragging my feet on this a little bit.

Mick Reid
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Nov 15th, 2017 08:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I'm inclined to go there before anything else."

I can't imagine you'd be disappointed. They are everything that they claim.

I would guess int'l shipping would be around $35AU and if you got the lowest priced one (the Pup) it would be less than 200USD. I reckon that's a reasonable and worthwhile expenditure.

Now you've got me thinking about getting one (again). Put my money where my mouth is...


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