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larryguitar19
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Oct 28th, 2017 06:33 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a simple pedal board and change things out but one thing I never got into was compressor pedals. I found them to be too noisy and tone sucking.

But in my new band I am the lead guitar player and need to up my game a bit. I especially need some kind of consistent boosted clean sustain.

So that sent me into some deep research and trying out things. Long story short I settled on the Exotic SP Mini and the Wampler Ego mini. The SP will run before the drive and the Wampler will be after. I'll run one or the other depending upon what I"m going for.

I have to say compressors have come a long way in the last 10 years. These things are as advertised and deliver sustain with very little noise floor.

I"m in tone heaven.

LeftyMeister

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Oct 28th, 2017 07:03 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've played with the SP mini and it's indeed a good pedal. My board has a Barber Tonepress and it's keeper.

Therealfrogman
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Oct 28th, 2017 08:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have the full size Ego comp and it is always on and I am constantly changing the dials around, I love it and use it at the end of my chain. I just ordered a TC mini spark for a booster.

I use the ego to control the level going to my am as well so I cand turn the bdri to around 4 and control the level at the pedal. I think wampler has some pretty good videos for couch players like me.

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Oct 28th, 2017 09:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Are you using the SP as clean boost and the Ego for your compression?
I've never thought about using two comps before.
I use a Moore Yellow Comp as an "always on" pedal and also recently acquired a TCE Spark Boost Mini for, well... boost ;^)

As I've commented here numerous times, the Yellow Comp is a very subtle effect but very noticeable if you turn it off. It just adds that "something".

Hard to go wrong with Xotic and Wampler. Great stuff for sure.

larryguitar19
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Oct 28th, 2017 09:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My setup is temporary until I figure out things. My signal chain is Tele>Tuner>SP>Fulltone>TS808>Strymon Deco>
DejaVibe>Wampler Ego>DD7>amp.

The Fulltone, Strymon and DD7 are always on. I only have one compressor on at a time. I find if both are on it raises the noise floor and introduces too much hiss.

Clearly regardless of which compressor is on the sustained tone is absolutely better. If you toggle on and off you can hear how long it sustains.

I have not yet figured out how I want to handle compressor plus drive. I'm debating whether compression sounds better before or after drive.

I won't know until a couple gigs and I get to crank things a bit. So far my sense of it is that in grit mode the Wampler Ego after grit sounds best. In the clean mode the SP early in the chain sounds better.

(This message was last edited by larryguitar19 at 11:50 PM, Oct 28th, 2017)

Mick Reid
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Oct 28th, 2017 10:54 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm a compressor first guy, but that said I haven't experimented with it's chain position since I got it 3 or 4 years ago...

That's pretty much my MO. Muck around until I find something that works for me... and LEAVE IT.

A form inherent laziness I suppose :^)

(This message was last edited by Mick Reid at 08:13 AM, Oct 29th, 2017)

larryguitar19
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Oct 29th, 2017 02:36 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I concur Mick. Before is better.

We had our first full rehearsal with the band today and I ran my Tele rig into a Deluxe Reverb at around 4 for a couple hours and got a good sample.

My ears tell me the Exotic SP is slightly better than the Wampler. It's a bit warmer and quieter. But that's no knock on the Wampler. It could just be my rig prefers it.

And then for either one first in the chain is clearly better. After the drive introduces a bit of noise and the highs are a bit sharp.

That's probably the natural result of compressing a signal that is already boosted and compressed.

(This message was last edited by larryguitar19 at 04:40 PM, Oct 29th, 2017)

pombrio

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Oct 29th, 2017 03:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Larry, when you say Fulltone, which one? I'm guessing OCD and not Fulldrive just because your next pedal is a TS808.

larryguitar19
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Oct 29th, 2017 06:38 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Fulltone Fulldrive 2 Mofset. My theory is a 1-2-3 step up in grit as needed.

So the FD2 is on all the time in the compcut mode. That gives me the best bottomy clean tone. The TS808 is on most of the time but not always. I can roll off enough volume on the guitar to play clean as needed.

At that point the guitar is volume is on around 7. Then as needed I will hit the boost on the FD2 and dial in some volume.

In my current band my singer/rhythm player tends to bang out the chords at the same level the whole way through. Sometimes he rolls off some gain but a lot of time he just soldiers on.

So rather than fight it I just dial in some volume to climb up over the top of it and then roll back when I"m done.

(This message was last edited by larryguitar19 at 08:40 PM, Oct 29th, 2017)

pombrio

USA

Oct 30th, 2017 05:16 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Interesting. I asked because I'm currently using this set-up: Tele>Tuner>Barber Tone Press>Maxon OD9>OCD>Flashback delay>Princeton clone. I have a FD2 but never experimented with the CompCut. What do you have your CompCut and TS808 set at? Maybe I'll swap it out for the OCD. Sorry, I didn't mean to get your thread off topic but I like the idea of your 1-2-3 approach.

LHW

Southwest Florida

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Oct 30th, 2017 08:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I recently purchased the new Electro Harmonix mini "Hot Tubes" pedal, which is a reissue of the late 70's full size one. I leave it on most of the time, and love what it adds to my tone. You can get one for $59.

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Oct 30th, 2017 07:26 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have the full size Ego and the Paisley Drive.

Probably going to be getting a few more Wampler in the future.

(This message was last edited by Pinetree at 09:55 AM, Oct 31st, 2017)

larryguitar19
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Oct 30th, 2017 07:48 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Pombrio--

I may do a video shortly.

But basically I have the FD in compcut mode with volume at just above unity gain. The boost is off. Then I set the OCD with the volume at maybe 10% over that with the gain at about 10 o'clock. Then I go back to the FD and set the boost to be just a bit more than the TS808.

I am not entirely sure what the compcut really does. All I know is the guitar has a fullness to the clean tone. The FD does have a drive feature but I don't use it for that heavy fuzzy tone.

Awhile back I was lucky enough to sit in with a band opening for a national act on a big stage outdoor festival. It was a rare opportunity to play my rig through a Twin Reverb cranked to about 5. I found at that volume I could back off the effects and the guitar cut through nicely.

I also have an OCD and use it a lot. i have that 'drive pedal' slot open and change things out according to my mood. I also like the Green Rhino in the drive slot.

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Nov 5th, 2017 05:06 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've got two pedal boards, one for each band I'm in as the bands are completely different musically.

One board has a Barber TonePress in front of an Xotic RC Booster. The other board has an Xotic SP mini comp. I run all my drive and other fx after the comps and clean boost.

I can't imagine playing a gig without the comp or clean boost pedals. The older I get the more I realize how valuable those pedals are. Also dont use 1/2 the amt of gain I used to.

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