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Guitar Fool
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Oct 26th, 2017 11:00 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've got the Stew Mac 5 fret eraser set...from 180-1000 grit......

and Hobby Lobby has these erasing pads that go from 3200-12000 grit....

awesome!

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Oct 26th, 2017 11:13 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

0000

FunkyKikuchiyo

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Oct 26th, 2017 10:48 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"and that is equivalent to 600 grit paper. "

That can't be right. I'm not sure how they're arriving at that. Maybe on a very soft finish or for surface prep on raw wood they're vaguely equivalent, but for our purposes that is pointless info.

After a fret dress I go up through the grits and like to end with something 1000 or higher on electrics. If you really want to polish it out, tape the sides of the fret so you can go against the grain to knock down high spots with the fine paper.

0000 steel wool doesn't have any equals. Scotch brite works okay if you find the right ones, but never quite as well.

If you want something that goes finer than the steel wool, get yourself some fingernail buffers. Sally's Beauty Supply has them cheap, but grocery stores and pharmacies have them as well. It is basically micro-mesh and adds some nice shine to the frets. Not quite as good as a buffing wheel (like wrnchbndr uses), but pretty darn close.

I'm curious what those "eraser pads" from Hobby Lobby are... links?

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Oct 27th, 2017 04:57 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Mask fretboard.
Level.
Crown.
800 grit 3M trimite paper.
2000 grit 3M paper.
Micromesh 3200.3600.4000.8000.
1 micron Diapaste burnished with a piece of leather.
Remove masking.
finish with soft cloth.

I personally NEVER use wire wool.It's not just the particles but it's the DUST that it produces.
I think it's bad news in a guitar workshop.

Stack-Knob.


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Oct 27th, 2017 05:17 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That is the downside, Uncle.

If I get back into this sort of work again I will probably go down the road you're on.

willie
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Oct 27th, 2017 08:10 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Always have used 0000...for well over 50 years.

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RicOkc

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Oct 29th, 2017 12:32 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Just like Willie I've used 0000 steel wool for years and have never had any problems with it.

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Oct 29th, 2017 01:08 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks all, food for thought. More votes for the evil steel wool than I expected.

"0000 steel wool doesn't have any equals". Funky, what puts me off trying something else is that the steel wool does just seem to work and I haven't felt the need for anything else, beyond the question of the mess it causes. (And yes, I thought that 600 grit comparison couldn't be right.)

As Peegoo said, varying your pressure gives a nice finish without resorting to too many different grits. Uncle stack-knob, that's a lot of grits! Is there a reason you use 3M in particular? I'm tempted to try your approach. I don't know about steel wool dust in workshops, but it's certainly not desirable in lungs.

Guitar Fool, Stew Mac have been adding new ones, they're up to 8000 now!


FunkyKikuchiyo

VT

Nov 1st, 2017 09:03 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

A few more thoughts on 0000 steel wool: not all brands are equal. Some shed way faster than others. If you're having bad luck, buy it somewhere else and see how it works. Also, try unrolling the pads. The pads in the package are actually sheets rolled up like cinnamon rolls. Find the end and stretch it out. It is a bit easier to avoid shedding. I like to hold a neck over the edge of a bench so stuff falls on the floor as much as possible.

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Nov 1st, 2017 02:28 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I tape over the pickups to protect them from the steel particles.

Here's a cool little secret:

I lay a few 1" round neo magnets atop my bench (under the neck) as I work. The magnets grab virtually all the little steel particles that come off the steel wool.

A piece of sticky duct tape easily pulls all the steel dust off the magnets and gets 'em nice and clean for next time.

Before I untape the pickups, I also use a clean piece of duct tape on them to remove any particles they may have grabbed.

Pinetree
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Nov 1st, 2017 02:33 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I soak my steel wool with Lemon oil.




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Nov 1st, 2017 03:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Lemon oil on the steel wool, brilliant. Two birds with one stone, you’ll double your profits.

I pretty much do what Stack-Knob does, a little OCD maybe but it seems to work better on stainless that just steel wool.

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Nov 1st, 2017 04:35 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Pinetree soaks his steel wool in lemon oil, I use virgin olive oil.

Pinetree
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Nov 1st, 2017 05:40 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I can never tell when we're crossed the line from serious to humor here, but I would not recommend Olive Oil, as it will eventually turn rancid.




Te 52

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Nov 2nd, 2017 10:10 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I use palm oil, but I play a lot of surf guitar.

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Nov 12th, 2017 08:33 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Over here you can purchase oil free steel wool,or not so.The oil free stuff sheds like crazy and dusts as well.
I just don't like the stuff around.
The first time you lay down a three colour sunburst or whatever,and get to buffing out the result only to find a few tiny strands of the stuff under the clearcoat or whatever,is the time to throw the stuff out of the way.

Stack-Knob.

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Nov 21st, 2017 03:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Just thought I'd mention this, as I had assumed the 5 0's would be finer than the 4 0's, but it isn't. As my steel wool was running out faster than my thought processes about buying fret erasers etc I went to the local hardware store and got some Liberon 0000. It's actually finer than the Colron 00000 (from B&Q) I had been using, I compared them on a drop fill.

On the drop fill instead of going from 1000 grit to the 5 0's I thought it might need a grit in between the 1000 and the finer 4 0's so I used 1000, 1200, 4 0's. It made for a lot less Meguiars polishing! So I'll try that combination on frets as well, and I've got some 1500 paper on the way to try.

Edit Liberon sp.

(This message was last edited by vomer at 12:14 PM, Nov 22nd, 2017)

trickeydave

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Nov 24th, 2017 08:55 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Try Gorgomyte Fret conditioning cloth. Works great and no steel wool hairs to deal with. Your frets will be as shiny as you’ve ever seen.

vomer
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Nov 25th, 2017 03:31 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks, I'll look it up.

Cal-Woody

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Nov 26th, 2017 07:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Gorgomyte is a nice polish treatment. Think of it as you would Brasso for brass polish.
It is a cleaner and not a abrasive type of finishing treatment.
It will remove tarnished gunk from metal surfaces and leaves a nice shine, but will not remove scuffing that occurred during any sanding or other abrasive marks.
So, if you have a chromed surface, this stuff will work well to remove any dingy muck that has built up and cleans the surface really well!
Just wanted to let you know that it is not an abrasive type of polishing cloth but more of a treated gauze material that cleans.

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