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FDP Forum / Guitar Mods, Repairs, and Projects / Today's surreal question: Jazzmaster trem on a Les Paul?

reverendrob
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Oct 22nd, 2017 10:06 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Let's assume I ended up with an LP I was considering adding a trem to - I know you can put a Kahler Flyer on them without too much hassle.

I have a couple JM-trem-equipped guitars with TOM bridges.

Is it feasible to do a Jazzmaster trem on a modern LP guitar?

I know it's something I'll have to ship out to...but...I'm thinking hardcore about the option

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Oct 23rd, 2017 07:59 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sure, why not? Break out the router!!

The only weirdness I can see is that the JM Trem is designed to be installed on a flat surface and the LP has a carved top.
Someone with some woodworking and finishing skills could dress it up so it didn't end up looking like a science project.

Something like an LP Special with a non-carved top would be even simpler.

reverendrob
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Oct 23rd, 2017 09:08 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yea, I'm not doing the work - I'll have to have it done, and I'd rather have it done right.


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Oct 23rd, 2017 11:43 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I like this kind of trem on an LP using a bow-tie style rocking bridge. The short version is in the link. I don't know if the long version would fit an LP.

Trem

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Oct 23rd, 2017 03:13 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

There's a vibrato made to fit the Gibson two-stud stop bar position called the Les Trem. It has a springy feel like the JM vibrato, and it drops right in with no permanent modifications.

Rocking bridge, you say?

reverendrob
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Oct 23rd, 2017 10:06 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yea, I'm thinking an actual permanent mod though.

It'd give me an excuse to get another 2016 HP before they're gone!


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Oct 24th, 2017 08:27 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ah. Ulterior motve.

Very common among guitar junkies!

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Oct 24th, 2017 11:16 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a Jay Turser knockoff of a Mustang. Instead of the Mustang bridge, they used a Jazzmaster type. I changed the bridge and did some work to get the strings lower but it works great...far better than my old 65 Mustang did. I used a Jazzmaster type rocking bridge, instead of the high roller bridge Turser used.

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Oct 25th, 2017 10:04 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I suppose a pad could be fabricated to fill the gaps between a flat tailpiece and a carved guitar. The other way would be a deeper flat route route, sort of a recessed tailpiece. I'm a bit concerned with the angle of the rear body of a Les Paul. With the neck angle a Paul has and the slope of the carve in the rear this could be a math problem. Personally I'd leave the mod to a flat top Paul like a Special or Jr.

I like to use a Bigsby and a Vibramate mount on Gibson style guitars with stop tailpieces. They use the stop tailpiece mounts so you don't have those extra holes showing and no holes to drill.



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Oct 25th, 2017 10:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Here's a LP Special style guitar with with a JM vibrato and a Tele bridge.

Easy to do on a flat-top.

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Oct 26th, 2017 02:30 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I put a Bigsby on my LP Tribute using the Vibromate adapter and am quite happy with the whole set up.

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Oct 26th, 2017 10:00 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

^^Yep^^

I've done several for customers, all happy campers. It is also a 100% reversible mod. I have a Bigsby on my Epiphone Wilshire with Vibromate, yes a flat top but it works perfectly.

This one

FunkyKikuchiyo

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Oct 26th, 2017 10:53 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Had good luck with Vibromates. Also easy to sell off after if you decide you don't like it.

A JM trem could be neat on a flat top LP, but not a carved one. As Hammond101 points out, it might be too much angle over the saddles for good tuning by the time you get it installed right, so it would be a heck of a lot of work for an underwhelming result. The irony is that the JM generally has not enough angle, so the ideal is probably somewhere between.

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Oct 27th, 2017 10:59 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Peegoo, what do you call that thing? a "LesTeleMaster?

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Oct 27th, 2017 11:54 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It's not mine, so I have no naming rights.

But that's a pretty good candidate!

reverendrob
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Oct 28th, 2017 10:06 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yea, I want the particular neck profile of that particular build, and a Jazzmaster trem.

If I wanted a Bigsby, I'd throw one on!

TinPan

USA

Nov 19th, 2017 04:40 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

One word STETSBAR google it


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