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Gato
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Oct 6th, 2017 07:10 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

There's this neighborhood mall the wife and I go to for Subway sandwiches. It's a pretty busy place, with lots of other shops along the same strip: fast food, doughnuts, cleaners, Dollar store.

There's a choke-point that comprises a 3 Way Stop Sign, with constant traffic, and the Idiot.

This is the husband/wife who stops at the sign, lets off the life partner, and then sits there waiting, while that person goes in to order food or whatever.
Minutes go by. Horns honk as other drivers have to try slipping past this vehicular obstacle, going against opposing traffic, because there is now insufficient room on the narrow roadway.

There are plenty of empty parking stalls ... in fact, the Idiot blocks several of them while waiting. Does he/she not see the chaos churning around them?
This is not the Occasional Simpleton who traps a line of cars in the left turn lane while being absorbed in texting. A few honks and that moron looks up and hits the gas. (too late for MY turn, of course).

How can someone be that oblivious? How does one justify that degree of rudeness?
I'm thinking that in a past life they were maybe a getaway driver for a team of bank robbers ...."Eddie .... keep da motor runnin'... don't go nowheres..."


littleuch
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Oct 6th, 2017 07:17 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My wife's statement for these types: "Why inconvenience yourself when you can inconvenience me"?

I see it all the time down here, from people who are old enough to know better. I also wonder if people who don't use their turn signals get irritated when they sit waiting for a car to pass by only to have them turn right without a signal.

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Oct 6th, 2017 07:19 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I think there are a whole lot of people who feel like they got less than a good hand in the poker game of life, so they make a habit of taking advantage of others when and where they can. They make their own little victories.

This might not be the case here though. Many older folks have conditions like poor vision, impaired neck mobility, etc., that make driving--and especially backing--a car very very difficult to do in a safe manner.

The reasons for "bad" behavior are many.

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Oct 6th, 2017 07:29 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The most dangerous place I drive is at our local Winn-Dixie grocery store parking lot. People back up without looking, drive the wrong way down the parking aisles and drive across several aisles without any regard for traffic.

They simply don't care.

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Oct 6th, 2017 08:32 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The worst parking lot I see is Wal-Mart. Any Wal-Mart. I don't mind shopping in the store; it's the parking lot I dread. I've seen some strange stuff in Wal-Mart parking lots.

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Oct 6th, 2017 08:38 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

...and even stranger stuff *inside* Wal Mart.

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Oct 6th, 2017 09:07 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I don't know about oblivious. More like selfishness.

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Oct 6th, 2017 09:13 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I agree that parking lot behavior is singular, MJB.
Suddenly, all rules are out the window.
Especially true of those who go flying across the lot, without a glance, bisecting lanes of two-way traffic, as if daring others to hit them.
And these are lots that by their nature are full of pedestrians, shopping carts, kids orbiting their parents, cars pulling in, backing out .... for me, it's a time to exercise extreme caution and a heightened sense of awareness.
For others though, it's a time to throw off the shackles of civility and floor it.





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Oct 6th, 2017 09:21 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Shortly after moving down here I was at the local Winn-Dixie. A elderly guy had dropped off his wife and was lurking in an aisle. What he didn't realize was that he was blocking a car from backing out.

Exits Junior Soprano. His animation and profanities started to draw a crowd. Face in the guy's window..."YOU €?($!#' DUMMY!!" over and over again. I thought geez, this guy better chill or he's gonna blow his witness protection.

(This message was last edited by littleuch at 11:22 AM, Oct 6th, 2017)

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Oct 6th, 2017 09:25 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It's everywhere and in every parking lot. Stopping in front of the store and waiting. Those who are too lazy to walk so they stop in the middle of a parking isle and wait for a spot and of course those who make the mad dash for the parking spot you are trying to pull into. They just chop you off and pull in.

They are the same bunch that would pass a long line of cars in a right (or left!) turn only lane and then expect someone to let them in to continue straight ahead.

Their time must, in their opinion, be more valuable than mine.

I understand the elderly, the disabled, I give them every break I can but those who think they are entitled I typically show them they are #1.

There is also a growing disregard for pedestrian traffic. Now it's hit the gas and pass them BEFORE they can cross the lot. This while you are 1/3 the way into the lane.

It's almost to a point that people are amazed when you stop and wait for them around here.

The holidays are coming, it's going to get even worse....

Te 52

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Oct 6th, 2017 11:37 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"...The worst parking lot I see is Wal-Mart. Any Wal-Mart..."

Ah, Walmart...where most of the customers have spent more on tattoos than dental work.

(This message was last edited by Te 52 at 01:38 PM, Oct 6th, 2017)

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Oct 6th, 2017 11:40 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"It's all about me"

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Oct 6th, 2017 11:40 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It's his world, Gato, you are just passing through it.

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Oct 6th, 2017 04:12 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hammond101: "There is also a growing disregard for pedestrian traffic."

Would those be the same pedestrians that are on their cell phones, or ear buds in, or crossing against the light, or stepping off of the curb without looking, or the ones standing at a crosswalk yakking on their phone instead of going across then suddenly starting across without looking, or (what did I forget?).......

(This message was last edited by ejm at 06:14 PM, Oct 6th, 2017)

Mikeyguitar
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Oct 6th, 2017 04:37 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

" Any Wal-Mart. I don't mind shopping in the store; it's the parking lot I dread."


+1
I tend to park in the "outer regions" of the lot and just walk to the building. I don't want my car tangled up in the congested mess.
:^)


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Oct 6th, 2017 06:28 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Occasional simpleton.."

Three Huzzahs for that one !!!

Problem is,, here in So Oregon AKA State of Jefferson..they rule..
they, them and the dope growers.

Seems every day, every hour, every minute is
occasional.

Taildragger
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Oct 6th, 2017 07:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"There's a choke-point that comprises a 3 Way Stop Sign, with constant traffic, and the Idiot."

The Subway, itself, would've been the "obvious choke point" for me: can't stand the stuff they serve in there.

But, then, it's a safe bet that you would find things I like to eat repulsive, so that's neither here nor there...

In the same club as your objectionable driver obstructing the Subway lot (perhaps they're related!) is the self-appointed "governor" of the fast lane (or, worse, of the "diamond"/carpool lane during rush hour). This is the guy who decides that either EXACTLY the posted speed limit or a speed about 5-10 mph LESS than that must not be exceeded. He sits in the fast lane as cars on the right fly by him, flipping him off and refuses to move over for mile after mile.

Such a righteous and powerful individual is he...

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Oct 7th, 2017 03:46 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The woman (always) sitting in the middle lane, oblivious to the fast lane streaming past her, and the queue building up behind her of people who can't or don't want to get into the fast lane. Hogging the middle lane was recently made a ticketable offence here in the UK, Mrs. Middlelane must be oblivious to that as well.

Gato
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Oct 7th, 2017 07:11 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"This is the guy who decides that either EXACTLY the posted speed limit or a speed about 5-10 mph LESS than that must not be exceeded."

I read in a psychology text that the obstinate driver of this kind is being passively aggressive .... in effect "mooning" the people behind him.... too timid to engage in confrontation face to face, he does this instead, giving the finger to the general population.

Another of these is the California driver who holds up traffic in the right lane at an intersection where the signal is red.

The law says he MAY turn right on the red light, not that he must. Therefore he/she can hold up a line of impatient commuters by obeying the letter of the law, blocking access despite no oncoming traffic. Once again showing his ass to those behind him.

Taildragger
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Oct 7th, 2017 07:37 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You are in the right lane on the freeway, traveling at the speed limit. An on ramp is feeding onto the freeway and a guy starts to merge from there into your lane. He first speeds up til he's right next to you, then matches your speed to hold that position. If you speed up, he speeds up. If you slow down, he slows down. His lane and yours will soon become one, but he refuses to make eye contact or even just check to to see that it's safe to merge onto your lane. In CA, the right-of way is yours. You honk to get his draw his attention to the impending problem. He flips you off.

Nice...

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