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Steve M
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Oct 4th, 2017 06:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sophomore level in college, all business majors, managerial accounting exam.

The relevant code of ethics has four cornerstones, one of which is competence.

I gave the following question on an exam.

Which of the following is a cornerstone of the code of ethics?

A, Complicity
B. Competence
C. Malleability
D. All of the above

In my mind the answer was obviously B even if a student hadn't studied because complicity cannot be right and by elimination the only logical choice is competence.

I am stunned by how many got this wrong.

The FDP is pretty well-educated, mostly by life and by school and regardless of schooling, there are smart people here.

Should I really have been surprised that college sophomores, all native English speakers, do not know what these words mean?

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Oct 4th, 2017 07:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I would say...


E. Classification








Oh wait, I thought you said code of ethnics.

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Oct 4th, 2017 07:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I got it right. I’d argue malleability cannot be right also.

And yes, you should be surprised, any high school graduate should know those words.

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Oct 4th, 2017 07:05 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I included malleability because I once worked for a guy who told me he wanted a more malleable CFO.

Not surprisingly, he also tried to ignore the employment contract we had.

In the end he got his malleable CFO, I got everything the contract stipulated and my legal fees.



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Oct 4th, 2017 07:14 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

So was the majority of wrong answers D?


and LOL @ SB

(This message was last edited by littleuch at 09:14 PM, Oct 4th, 2017)

Steve M
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Oct 4th, 2017 08:41 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Probably,

But several chose malleability or complicity

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Oct 4th, 2017 08:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Maybe those kids need a primer in test taking because 'competence' was obviously the only reasonable answer.

(This message was last edited by archiestone at 02:42 AM, Oct 5th, 2017)

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Oct 5th, 2017 05:02 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

A malleable CFO. Now *that* sounds ethical!!!

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Oct 5th, 2017 05:17 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sure. That means 'amenable to the concept of shopping malls'.

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Oct 5th, 2017 05:19 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

And "all of the above" is incorrect simply due to the syntax of the question.

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Oct 5th, 2017 06:17 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

A CFO friend said he learned early on that the answer to "what is 2 plus 2?" is: whatever the boss wants it to be. I'd call him malleable, for sure.

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Oct 5th, 2017 06:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The actual answer is B, of course, but the real-world answer can also be C.

I'm partial to practical, but...that's me.

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Oct 5th, 2017 06:39 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Should I really have been surprised that college sophomores, all native English speakers, do not know what these words mean?"

Yes.

I can believe SOME would get it wrong, but certainly not "stunned by how many got this wrong."

Our primary education system seems to be failing us.
OR... you just happened to get a classroom full of maroons.

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Oct 5th, 2017 06:50 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

“A CFO friend said he learned early on that the answer to "what is 2 plus 2?" is: whatever the boss wants it to be. I'd call him malleable, for sure.”

But would you call him ethical?

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Oct 5th, 2017 07:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Depends on what business ethics is these days to be honest.

It wasn't much back then, unless you were in a licensed profession with consequences.


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Oct 5th, 2017 08:08 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

A large part of my job is technical writing, and I’m very good at it. Unfortunately due to this I’m frequently stuck with the task of editing and rewriting other employee’s work.

I’m continually stunned how many younger college grads (some with advanced degrees) have almost nonexistent writing and vocabulary skills.

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Oct 5th, 2017 08:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"But would you call him ethical?" Ethics lose out to greed, it would seem.

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Oct 5th, 2017 09:38 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yeah, I would expect them to be more "competent".

My guitar player had me join him as a guest lecturer on Tuesday. I was impressed with these kids. His second class was Logic and these students were on the ball, i couldn't keep up with them, but I was unfamiliar with the logic equations they were using.

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Oct 5th, 2017 06:41 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I was, and still am a licensed CPA. But the real consequences of malleability gone wrong would be the personal loss of integrity.

The lack of test taking skills was more frustrating than the vocabulary...

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Oct 6th, 2017 04:56 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My guess is that those who chose A made an assumption that complicity was a synonym for compliance.

Those who chose C may have been thinking of malleability as similar to conformity.

Just playing devil's advocate.

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