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Taildragger
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Oct 1st, 2017 03:55 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Rules for taking coyotes...

...in California:

Taildragger
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Oct 1st, 2017 04:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I can't imagine shooting a coyote anywhere in California would end well for you."

Caliber and brand notwithstanding, discharging a firearm on a golf course just "might" be counter to the rules thereof. Not to mention the fact that there would be a non-zero likelihood of wounding or killing a fellow golfer. Very bad idea...

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Oct 1st, 2017 04:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well documented that I’m not a gun owner, but I’ve watched a lot of television programming about coyotes, and apparently an Acme brand safe or anvil is the preferred method.

Might be too heavy to carry while walking a dog or golfing, so I recommend pulling it behind you in a little red wagon.

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Oct 1st, 2017 04:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

LOL! Well played.


Leftee
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Oct 1st, 2017 05:55 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I’d probably go with a .38.

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Oct 1st, 2017 06:08 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The Ruger LCP (.380) is easy to conceal and carry and will more than enough to dispatch a coyote. If you can hit it, that is. Hydra-Shoks are a good round as are most of the premium LE and SD rounds.

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Oct 1st, 2017 06:25 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

After doing some "googling" it appears the only way to carry any firearm in Ca without a CCW is to purchase a hunting license and have the weapon in plain view.

Not sure the golf course would like this.

Good news is coyote hunting is year round.

Maybe a small carbine in a case that can be carried in the golf bag would serve you.

Looks like it is one year in jail for a first offense "carrying concealed" so a big decision for sure.

Good luck

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Oct 1st, 2017 06:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Back to a Shockwave in the golf bag. :-)

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Oct 1st, 2017 06:36 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The shockwave. Aka your 12 iron.

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Oct 1st, 2017 06:37 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My trail piece is a Ruger SP101 five-shot 38/357. I load it with .38 SPL +P hollowpoints.

Why?

1. It's lightweight and easy to carry.

2. The +P round approaches the ballistics and hit power of the .357 mag round, but it doesn't have the huge blast and recoil of the .357. In low-light conditions, touching off a full-house .357 will cause you temporary flash blindness.

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Oct 1st, 2017 06:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That's why I carried a S&W 442 for so many years. Hammerless, double action only, 5 rounds, standard pressure (it's an early 442), and, back then, Silvertips. It was light, easy enough to handle, and could be lethal if it had ever been needed. Now, all those revolvers are +P rated and a lot better to shoot than a heavier .357 version even when loaded with +P.

I like the LCP even better because I'll carry it more often. Field use is different but most of my time isn't in the field.

Taildragger
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Oct 1st, 2017 07:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm another fan of .38 SPL +P hollowpoints and have a much easier time hitting stuff with them than with .357.

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Oct 2nd, 2017 12:02 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a Ruger sp101 3 inch that I use for much the same thing. If you really want -357 you will want the weight. I have an Alien Gear IWB that makes it a pretty easy carry.

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Oct 2nd, 2017 05:01 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ruger GP 100

JMO.

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Oct 2nd, 2017 07:37 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

As usual, I can't help but wonder how effective these tiny guns (being pointed out previously in the thread) can be as a weapon on a coyote.

The coyote is more fur than animal ... quite a small and poorly defined target and possibly moving. Could even be dangerous. Most likely not, but maybe.

Actually shooting it with a snub nose or sub compact handgun seems to be at very long odds.

The noise will likely be the best advantage you have in that scenario.

As mentioned above, using this method (especially in California) in any public setting could put you in serious legal jeopardy.

IMO with such low odds of actually hitting the coyote with a bullet, maybe a different noise maker (having less legal jeopardy) would be reasonable consideration.

Or so it seems to me.

As for 357 magnum handguns ... I owned a 6" Colt Python and also a 6" S&W 686. I thought both were very fine weapons. ;)

(This message was last edited by BlondeStrat at 11:03 AM, Oct 2nd, 2017)

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Oct 2nd, 2017 08:00 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

99.99% of healthy coyotes want nothing to do with you and a shout will scatter them.

In the rare event of a sick, or rabid coyote who comes at you, I doubt there would be time for you to go to the cart or bag and retrieve a weapon.

IMO the best choice would be the club in your hand.

(This message was last edited by Steve M at 10:10 AM, Oct 2nd, 2017)

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Oct 2nd, 2017 08:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Big difference between western and eastern coyote, no? My understanding those out east tend to be bigger and even intermingled with wolf blood. We've had pocket dogs snatched off of leashes from little old ladies in our area.

I'd feel reasonably comfortable with my EDC Ruger LCP against these useless varmints. A mountain lion or bear, not so much.

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Oct 2nd, 2017 08:58 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I think the .357 is a great idea. I don't have one. The hand guns I own have been good deals or ones I wanted, same with my rifles. My brother started much later than I did so he based all his purchases on the .357 in lever gun and revolver. That he can shoot .38s and fire .357 too is another plus. They are a bit bulky though, they need to be .357 can be a hot round.

The only caliber I have in both rifle, revolver and auto loading hand guns is the .22. Not what I would want to carry in bear country.

If I had to break down mine to a few the .357 would be the round I would switch to.

jtheissen

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Oct 2nd, 2017 09:16 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Love my GP100 w/6" barrel. Custom wood grip, black matte finish. Heavy, so I use a shoulder holster.

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Oct 2nd, 2017 09:39 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

.357 mag lever guns are awesome! I haven’t added a revolver yet.

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