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Chris Greene
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Oct 1st, 2017 06:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That's why I carried a S&W 442 for so many years. Hammerless, double action only, 5 rounds, standard pressure (it's an early 442), and, back then, Silvertips. It was light, easy enough to handle, and could be lethal if it had ever been needed. Now, all those revolvers are +P rated and a lot better to shoot than a heavier .357 version even when loaded with +P.

I like the LCP even better because I'll carry it more often. Field use is different but most of my time isn't in the field.

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Oct 1st, 2017 07:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm another fan of .38 SPL +P hollowpoints and have a much easier time hitting stuff with them than with .357.

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Oct 2nd, 2017 12:02 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a Ruger sp101 3 inch that I use for much the same thing. If you really want -357 you will want the weight. I have an Alien Gear IWB that makes it a pretty easy carry.

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Oct 2nd, 2017 05:01 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ruger GP 100

JMO.

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Oct 2nd, 2017 07:37 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

As usual, I can't help but wonder how effective these tiny guns (being pointed out previously in the thread) can be as a weapon on a coyote.

The coyote is more fur than animal ... quite a small and poorly defined target and possibly moving. Could even be dangerous. Most likely not, but maybe.

Actually shooting it with a snub nose or sub compact handgun seems to be at very long odds.

The noise will likely be the best advantage you have in that scenario.

As mentioned above, using this method (especially in California) in any public setting could put you in serious legal jeopardy.

IMO with such low odds of actually hitting the coyote with a bullet, maybe a different noise maker (having less legal jeopardy) would be reasonable consideration.

Or so it seems to me.

As for 357 magnum handguns ... I owned a 6" Colt Python and also a 6" S&W 686. I thought both were very fine weapons. ;)

(This message was last edited by BlondeStrat at 11:03 AM, Oct 2nd, 2017)

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Oct 2nd, 2017 08:00 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

99.99% of healthy coyotes want nothing to do with you and a shout will scatter them.

In the rare event of a sick, or rabid coyote who comes at you, I doubt there would be time for you to go to the cart or bag and retrieve a weapon.

IMO the best choice would be the club in your hand.

(This message was last edited by Steve M at 10:10 AM, Oct 2nd, 2017)

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Oct 2nd, 2017 08:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Big difference between western and eastern coyote, no? My understanding those out east tend to be bigger and even intermingled with wolf blood. We've had pocket dogs snatched off of leashes from little old ladies in our area.

I'd feel reasonably comfortable with my EDC Ruger LCP against these useless varmints. A mountain lion or bear, not so much.

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Oct 2nd, 2017 08:58 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I think the .357 is a great idea. I don't have one. The hand guns I own have been good deals or ones I wanted, same with my rifles. My brother started much later than I did so he based all his purchases on the .357 in lever gun and revolver. That he can shoot .38s and fire .357 too is another plus. They are a bit bulky though, they need to be .357 can be a hot round.

The only caliber I have in both rifle, revolver and auto loading hand guns is the .22. Not what I would want to carry in bear country.

If I had to break down mine to a few the .357 would be the round I would switch to.

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Oct 2nd, 2017 09:16 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Love my GP100 w/6" barrel. Custom wood grip, black matte finish. Heavy, so I use a shoulder holster.

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Oct 2nd, 2017 09:39 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

.357 mag lever guns are awesome! I haven’t added a revolver yet.

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Oct 2nd, 2017 10:51 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

And, be sure you’re using non-lead bullets if you’re defending yourself from rabid coyotes in Kalifornia (according to the above referenced regulations).

Wouldn’t want to harm the environment!

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Oct 2nd, 2017 04:42 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

There are some open spaces near where I live in Seattle. There is a neighborhood blog where there are frequent coyote sighting posts. One night a couple of months ago, I saw two small ones in my yard. A few months ago, I saw a good sized one walking down the street.
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Chris Greene
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Idaho, USA

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Oct 2nd, 2017 04:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"99.99% of healthy coyotes want nothing to do with you and a shout will scatter them.

In the rare event of a sick, or rabid coyote who comes at you, I doubt there would be time for you to go to the cart or bag and retrieve a weapon.

IMO the best choice would be the club in your hand."

Where's the Like button around here?

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Oct 2nd, 2017 05:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

No matter what you choose, get to a range and take some gun safety and shooting lessons.

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Oct 3rd, 2017 11:56 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I have an Alien Gear IWB that makes it a pretty easy carry"

I just ordered an Aliengear tuck 3.0 IWB holster for my G19.

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Oct 3rd, 2017 01:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Cattle prod.

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Oct 3rd, 2017 01:25 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Personally I'd carry my Walther PP in 9mm with jacketed hollow points. Fits nicely in my pocket. It has enough firepower for vermin or a big cat if needed. It's my choice for hiking around SoCal.

BTW, Coyotes that live around humans and population centers get pretty daring over time. I see them all the time in the Ortega Mtns. and on the local plateaus. There is a pretty good sized pack that live in open land across the street. They make quite a racket some nights. Good supply of rabbits and ground squirrels over there.

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Oct 3rd, 2017 01:45 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"No matter what you choose, get to a range and take some gun safety and shooting lessons..."

Always good advice, Tjack!

In my own case, I grew up with a 50 ft .22 rifle range in my basement. Many thousands of rounds fired there over the years growing up. A definite factor in my ability to qualify as Expert Marksman all 23 years of my time in the USAF.

In short, I can hit what I aim at.

Many thanks for all the great suggestions above.

BTW, that coyote who drew near at the golf course in Truckee, CA was fully grown, had a beautiful bushy tail, and looked like he'd been eating very well indeed. Did not exhibit normal traits associated with rabies.

I grabbed the sand wedge because there was no time to do anything but grab ANY club. Given more time I would have gone for my pitching wedge because I believe that's what worked so well for Tiger Woods' ex wife.

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Oct 3rd, 2017 10:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I believe that's what worked so well for Tiger Woods' ex wife."

^^LOL^^



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Oct 4th, 2017 08:50 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You could go Indiana Jones on them with a 10 foot whip. It's amazing the effect these have on critters, just the sound alone. A pack of semi ferral dogs had been killing chickens and causing other damage in my neighborhood. I heard some noise on the back deck grabbed a whip I had just finished and went out back. There were six or so in the pack, one crack of the whip and they were freaking out, making noises like they got hit by a car frantic in trying to get away, one ran head on into a tree. I kept after them cracking it the whole time. They were trying to climb the cyclone fence in an effort to escape.

I don't know about bears but they affect large cats that way too, the cats don't freak out as bad but they will turn away. Cats are more cautious and will try to avoid injury. Hitting an aggressive venomous snake is easier with the whip than a pistol. I carry an 8 foot whip on the bicycle occasionally, when I'm off road.

At home (farm) I'm usually not armed, unless it's late at night or I'm down in the back. I'll carry a .45 revolver, though the .22 mag would deal with most of the problems critters. I've seen bears in the area and down in the Ocala NF I see large cat tracks, I've heard therm too but haven't seen one recently.



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